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From: Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>
To: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
Cc: emacs org-mode mailing list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: footnote renumber bug
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:53:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874otuwy3l.fsf@fastmail.fm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A4D13E2.5060707@easy-emacs.de> ("Andreas =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=B6h?= =?utf-8?Q?ler=22's?= message of "Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:09:06 +0200")

Hi Andreas,

Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes:

> Matthew Lundin wrote:
>> Footnote.el, by contrast, was designed for short email messages in which
>> there is no distinction between source text and exported text. Though it
>> serves this limited purpose admirably, it offers only a very rudimentary
>> numbering system rather than a complete markup solution. For any complex
>> writing (e.g., a research paper with dozens of footnotes), footnote.el
>> is well-nigh impossible to use. There are simply too many chances of
>> broken or mixed up links.
> Ignoring the guts of org-modes footnote implementation, just my impression
> of footnote.el:
> it's fine by architecture and --if patched-- well capable for all things
> you want to do with footnotes.
> Can't see any limitation concerning larger texts.
> It simply wasn't --or isn't-- written to the end.

Thanks for the clarification. Reading over my email, I believe I may
stated some conclusions about footnote.el too strongly. What I should
have said is that *in my own experience* I have found footnote.el
difficult to use (in its pre-patched form, of course). 

Try as I might, I could never get Footnote-renumber-footnotes to do
anything. And if I moved any footnotes in the original text, deleted
them manually, or reopened a document with footnotes,
Footnote-add-footnote behaved unpredictably, creating duplicate numbers,
skipping numbers, putting footnotes in the wrong order, placing
footnotes randomly above and below the "Footnotes:" line, etc. 

Very likely, my issues with footnote.el were due to my own lack of
understanding of its mechanics, and I can see how your patch fixes
things up quite a bit. It will be a really nice contribution to emacs if
footnote.el is fixed, since modes such as Muse rely on it.

Also, my apologies for a somewhat wordy defense of org-footnote. I wrote
it only because I am a very big fan. :)


  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-02 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-02  6:55 Andreas Roehler
2009-07-02 11:44 ` Karl Maihofer
2009-07-02 13:18   ` Andreas Röhler
2009-07-02 15:48     ` Matthew Lundin
2009-07-02 16:05       ` Matthew Lundin
2009-07-02 20:09       ` Andreas Röhler
2009-07-02 21:53         ` Matthew Lundin [this message]
2009-07-03  8:36           ` Scot Becker
2009-07-03 12:08             ` Andreas Röhler
2009-07-03 14:17               ` Paul R
2009-07-03 14:51                 ` Andreas Röhler
2009-07-03 14:42               ` Matthew Lundin
2009-07-03 21:49 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-07-04  8:02   ` Andreas Roehler
2009-07-04 20:30     ` Matthew Lundin
2009-07-05 20:31       ` Carsten Dominik

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