* organizing =intra-day tasks= with a countdown timer
@ 2010-10-28 16:42 Samuel Wales
2010-10-28 16:55 ` Samuel Wales
2010-10-28 18:52 ` Łukasz Stelmach
0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Wales @ 2010-10-28 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
I wrote this a while back, and now I see that the manual
describes a countdown timer. So now might be a good
time.
===
We've discussed something like this before, but it seems
there have been changes, so I am starting from scratch.
Wondering how much of the functionality exists in Emacs or
Org.
I describe it in detail below.
===
Overview:
===
I'd like to keep =countdown timers= and get reminded at
blastoff.
This is a completely separate concept from clocking, effort
estimates, and that org timer that inserts mm:ss, by the
way.
Here is a single example -- all 3 timers will run at the
same time:
1) You just put the laundry in. You want a reminder to
switch it in 30m.
2) You are also making tea right now. You want a reminder
in 5m to drink it.
3) You are interviewing somebody at 6PM today. You want a
reminder 15m before and at 6PM.
Note that 1 and 2 are specified with a number of minutes,
while 3 is specified with a time.
Note that there is more than one timer at the same time.
===
Entry:
===
The interface should be simple, perhaps via capture, and
definitely in the minibuffer. It's OK if it creates tasks.
This would allow persistence and keep track of your
activities.
Appt-add can mostly do 3, but without keeping an Org task
and without specifying duration (only target). Thus, you
have to manually calculate the duration, which is a
cognitive burden.
For 3 you can add an Org task, set a time, and tell appt to
show it. However, I don't know if there is a capture
interface for all of that.
I know of no mechanism for 1 and 2.
===
Output:
===
Ideally, you would be able to show a buffer that shows
remaining duration, target time, and name of thing:
|----------+---------+-----------+-----------|
| status | target | remaining | task |
|----------+---------+-----------+-----------|
| reminded | 17:17 | -13m | tea |
| - | /17:30/ | - | /now/ |
| wait | 17:44 | 14m | laundry |
| wait | 18:00 | 30m | interview |
|----------+---------+-----------+-----------|
I don't know if it makes sense to use agenda.
And a timer in the modeline that can be switched between the
currently clocked task display (whatever you are clocking in
org, i.e. the usual count-up display) and the next item (in
this case laundry in 14m).
===
OK, so how much of all this is possible these days?
Thanks.
Samuel
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* Re: organizing =intra-day tasks= with a countdown timer
2010-10-28 16:42 organizing =intra-day tasks= with a countdown timer Samuel Wales
@ 2010-10-28 16:55 ` Samuel Wales
2010-10-28 18:52 ` Łukasz Stelmach
1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Wales @ 2010-10-28 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
I should point out that this is more a matter of getting the ideas
posted than a feature request.
On 2010-10-28, Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wrote this a while back, and now I see that the manual
> describes a countdown timer. So now might be a good
> time.
>
> ===
>
> We've discussed something like this before, but it seems
> there have been changes, so I am starting from scratch.
>
> Wondering how much of the functionality exists in Emacs or
> Org.
>
> I describe it in detail below.
>
> ===
> Overview:
> ===
>
> I'd like to keep =countdown timers= and get reminded at
> blastoff.
>
> This is a completely separate concept from clocking, effort
> estimates, and that org timer that inserts mm:ss, by the
> way.
>
> Here is a single example -- all 3 timers will run at the
> same time:
>
> 1) You just put the laundry in. You want a reminder to
> switch it in 30m.
> 2) You are also making tea right now. You want a reminder
> in 5m to drink it.
> 3) You are interviewing somebody at 6PM today. You want a
> reminder 15m before and at 6PM.
>
> Note that 1 and 2 are specified with a number of minutes,
> while 3 is specified with a time.
>
> Note that there is more than one timer at the same time.
>
> ===
> Entry:
> ===
>
> The interface should be simple, perhaps via capture, and
> definitely in the minibuffer. It's OK if it creates tasks.
> This would allow persistence and keep track of your
> activities.
>
> Appt-add can mostly do 3, but without keeping an Org task
> and without specifying duration (only target). Thus, you
> have to manually calculate the duration, which is a
> cognitive burden.
>
> For 3 you can add an Org task, set a time, and tell appt to
> show it. However, I don't know if there is a capture
> interface for all of that.
>
> I know of no mechanism for 1 and 2.
>
> ===
> Output:
> ===
>
> Ideally, you would be able to show a buffer that shows
> remaining duration, target time, and name of thing:
>
> |----------+---------+-----------+-----------|
> | status | target | remaining | task |
> |----------+---------+-----------+-----------|
> | reminded | 17:17 | -13m | tea |
> | - | /17:30/ | - | /now/ |
> | wait | 17:44 | 14m | laundry |
> | wait | 18:00 | 30m | interview |
> |----------+---------+-----------+-----------|
>
> I don't know if it makes sense to use agenda.
>
> And a timer in the modeline that can be switched between the
> currently clocked task display (whatever you are clocking in
> org, i.e. the usual count-up display) and the next item (in
> this case laundry in 14m).
>
> ===
>
> OK, so how much of all this is possible these days?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Samuel
>
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* Re: organizing =intra-day tasks= with a countdown timer
2010-10-28 16:42 organizing =intra-day tasks= with a countdown timer Samuel Wales
2010-10-28 16:55 ` Samuel Wales
@ 2010-10-28 18:52 ` Łukasz Stelmach
1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Łukasz Stelmach @ 2010-10-28 18:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:
> 2) You are also making tea right now. You want a reminder
> in 5m to drink it.
So true ;-) ICRBIDWT[*]
--
Miłego dnia,
Łukasz Stelmach
[*] I could refrain but I didn't want to ;-)
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