From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Richard Lawrence Subject: Re: Citation syntax: Underscore MUST(?) be allowed in cite keys? Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2015 15:33:49 -0700 Message-ID: <874mptztpu.fsf@berkeley.edu> References: <54F75222.8030805@gmail.com> <87pp8o1t9f.fsf@gmx.us> <87pp8o6nt9.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87fv9i9z8s.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87bnk60zhc.fsf@berkeley.edu> <54FA9AA9.9070505@gmail.com> <87r3t05okc.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87ioeci6f6.fsf@gmx.us> <87r3szk6q9.fsf@gmx.us> <87oao3yluf.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87k2yqyx55.fsf@berkeley.edu> <871tkyxgjg.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87h9tuyph6.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87r3sxubgl.fsf@gmx.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60055) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YV6Fy-0006Hw-A3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 18:34:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YV6Fu-0008Ak-54 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 18:34:38 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:50555) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YV6Ft-0008AJ-V2 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 18:34:34 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YV6Fs-0005vl-CJ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 23:34:32 +0100 Received: from c-67-169-117-151.hsd1.ca.comcast.net ([67.169.117.151]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 23:34:32 +0100 Received: from richard.lawrence by c-67-169-117-151.hsd1.ca.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 23:34:32 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Rasmus writes: > Richard Lawrence writes: > >> Suppose you often write citations like: >> >> [cite: See @Doe99, and references therein, for more.] >> >> [...] and rendered like: >> >> See Doe (1999), and references therein, for more. > > This is slightly OT, but it comes up frequently enough that it's worth > pointing out. Assuming we were to handle notes as biblatex (which would > be the better thing to do IMO), the output of: > > [cite: See @Doe99, and references therein, for more.] > Aka: \textcite[See][, and references therein, for more.]{Doe99} > > is > > Aksn et al. (See 2006, , and references therein, for more.) > ^^ Oh dear, you're right. Where do that initial comma and space come from? I guess BibLaTeX inserts them automatically? Does that happen in all styles? >From what I can see, Pandoc does not implicitly insert punctuation like this: As @Fenner2012a [, cf. sec. 2] showed ... renders as As Fenner (2012, cf. sec. 2) showed ... Can you turn off the automatic addition of commas in BibLaTeX by setting something in the preamble? If so, would that be the right solution here? It might be easier to remove punctuation on the LaTeX side than to get other backends to duplicate LaTeX's implicit punctuating behavior. Best, Richard