From: Jens Lechtenboerger <jens.lechtenboerger@fsfe.org>
To: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Derive non-default start value for ordered list
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2019 20:15:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <874kyio7x6.fsf@informationelle-selbstbestimmung-im-internet.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJcAo8tY8kJ76BSbOHjbqF63hqB1a+wenUJRsYWyXU26kqO86Q@mail.gmail.com> (Samuel Wales's message of "Sun, 1 Dec 2019 14:13:24 -0700")
On 2019-12-01, at 14:13, Samuel Wales wrote:
> i think it might be partlly a question of whether these numbers are
> fixed things that refer to fixed items [like referring to sections in
> a law that is not in the document] vs. being used to continue lists.
>
> they are both legitimate uses. in the first case, the @ syntax makes
> sense to me, because it specifies a fixed alphanumber. yes i made
> that word up.
>
> some exporters assume the numbers in the org source list don't matter
> and start from 1 or the @ in the exported text.
If I took the effort to type something, then that should not be
ignored by an exporter.
> so your solution would be anomalous.
But meet some users’ expectations. Quite likely, those of new Org
users.
> and i'm used to exporters doing that so it feels strange to me to rely
> on the org text.
If text is ignored, I should not need to type it in the first
place.
> i view that as potentially changing. what should
> occur if you do something that renumbers it?
If I renumber, then, of course, I want to see the new numbers after
export.
> in the second case, the @ syntax and your solution both seem brittle
> to me. you might add to the first list.
I agree.
> i think there can be a third solution that would be less brittle.
>
> just as a brainstorm, consider the common case of continued lists like
>
> vvv
> 1. asdf
> 2. <<asdf-list-end>> asdf
>
> a paragraph.
>
> 3. [@asdf-list-end] asdf
> ^^^
This would indeed be a cool solution.
Thanks
Jens
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-12-02 19:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-12-01 20:45 [PATCH] Derive non-default start value for ordered list Jens Lechtenboerger
2019-12-01 21:13 ` Samuel Wales
2019-12-01 21:20 ` Samuel Wales
2019-12-02 19:15 ` Jens Lechtenboerger [this message]
2019-12-02 7:23 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2019-12-02 19:32 ` Jens Lechtenboerger
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