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Organization: GNU References: <874kt1atzh.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mail-Followup-To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 13:53:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <874kt1atzh.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Message-ID: <874kt0kggv.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 X-Spam-Score: -2.11 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 2001:470:142::17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [-2.11 / 13.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.49411661361907]; DWL_DNSWL_BLOCKED(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:142::/48:c]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 22989(0.17), country: US(-0.00), ip: 2001:470:142::17(-0.49)]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: eggs.gnu.org]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[bandali@gnu.org,emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22989, ipnet:2001:470:142::/48, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; URIBL_BLOCKED(0.00)[nicolasgoaziou.fr:email]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gnu.org]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DOM_EQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; DNSWL_BLOCKED(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:from]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[] X-TUID: gHGe6vuLDHTL --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Hello, Nicolas Goaziou writes: [...] > > It would make sense to make it easier for non-Org users who have to deal > with Org files to set this variable to `showeverything'. 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