From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id GI2RCmJRqWHadwEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 00:06:10 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id aIwjBmJRqWFURgAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 02 Dec 2021 23:06:10 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC08D2CD77 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 00:06:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:44346 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1msv9U-0002Jl-L1 for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2021 18:06:08 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45918) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1msv91-0002JX-Lw for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2021 18:05:39 -0500 Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.199]:47741) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1msv8z-0007Fa-Lc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2021 18:05:39 -0500 Received: (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F1DFDFF807; Thu, 2 Dec 2021 23:05:33 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: Juan Manuel =?utf-8?Q?Mac=C3=ADas?= Subject: Re: Org-syntax: Intra-word markup References: <4897bc60-b74f-ccfd-e13e-9b89a1194fdf@mailbox.org> <87fsrbp673.fsf@gmail.com> <1ef0e093-c165-2a5f-954d-6a33b64c8ee9@mailbox.org> <87r1avgnpi.fsf@localhost> <878rx2bzhw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <878rx2kdgj.fsf@posteo.net> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2021 00:05:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <878rx2kdgj.fsf@posteo.net> ("Juan Manuel =?utf-8?Q?Mac=C3=AD?= =?utf-8?Q?as=22's?= message of "Thu, 02 Dec 2021 19:34:52 +0000") Message-ID: <874k7qboaq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.199; envelope-from=mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr; helo=relay9-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Timothy , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Ihor Radchenko , Denis Maier Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1638486369; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=NdnTIZXbcFN72C6yHTu/ezXEaV5JHyMliA/Ls4cff8k=; b=OAUFtsinYMOFINKucHVFnIHyRCyaNPdcoXlQNBa4kQuUCADSspQIa6AeAm+q8WWcf3EwC3 CWRYKiSqdskNYHVkP2sfSYyEMz9X+W6/Xx1rhJV+h6/ZdUjtiQbTaqRrBaEKtxIMHddnIS Qr84BzSUPms+8xjAvHzAPlisX9n/PaMdGmx2Ruvb/CxMNPyjFe6bkKlAEfbcfXzqukKuvz QdPh2UljSdTJ7x6rb374VZyHE8Uwoo5odP/QZC7JXJtm/Sd7V5NWV0dF84a9OydGcrH7aw q/S5ZCQ8BqTb++6asV3ReK6E4Rb9SRNj1SIJArO4OAnfTfy6vSfQqKFyA5sGxA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1638486369; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=WDFapQwFCXPBbSF3Ah5T9cnF2caBYs6KE6jh8rEh7kjPSdNn4pzqFl0i/7wBQoPj47XoCa nwZxC7psGL/v4O/WahHxa8EWXySdLBoMMcCvsqPWC4c6AONXXWgPLle3wfWljM01Cr0auB GSeddi2x9ciP0e20VKzFyKUzYZKZGyH4m7rao/jPfosXctODEIV50nm/SNfmgzbRkc9cqm KvrO/yiO2KWCfOEwxrXH9pPXXLCC2khtzbxM6XNYIU8wkZVyKHoAgAqNPkq43ggoEkU17/ 1V/OpqAMgWHxiTu3zCB1eD9z4Ieb+6cFjgdZmJPMZmKD7AkBMlY3FwAvcYs4Jg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.02 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CC08D2CD77 X-Spam-Score: -3.02 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: hXu8zcz3MiO0 Hello, Juan Manuel Mac=C3=ADas writes: > I agree that zero width spaces work fine as a solution, but I think they > should not be understood as part of the syntax but as a punctual > (temporal?) remedy to certain scenarios. As mentioned before, in LaTeX > zero width spaces can produce unexpected effects and modify the final > form of the text (at least in luatex). I also don't know if it would be > useful to remove all zero width spaces in the export process, because in > some cases the user may want to keep them, as I think Maxim commented in > a previous message. We may be misunderstanding each other.=20 I'm suggesting to remove zero-width spaces contiguous to emphasis markers only. Therefore LaTeX process would npot see them. Other zero width spaces, e.g., inserted by user, are kept. AFAICT, the two last points you mention are not relevant with my proposal. Besides, they already part of the syntax, in some way. So that ship has sailed long ago. Regards, --=20 Nicolas Goaziou