From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Paul R Subject: Re: Footnotes and org-export, revisited Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:28:56 +0100 Message-ID: <873agnylpj.fsf@gmail.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LCwSZ-0002HT-Bg for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:29:07 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LCwSU-0002CM-Fd for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:29:06 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50924 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LCwSU-0002CJ-9u for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:29:02 -0500 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.157]:53387) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LCwST-00037X-Rm for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:29:02 -0500 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1793891fgb.30 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:29:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Scot Becker's message of "Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:52:59 +0000") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Scot Becker Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Scot, On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:52:59 +0000, "Scot Becker" said: Scot> But someone working in Muse did write an interesting extension to Scot> Muse's footnote support. (The extension is explained here [5], and Scot> the revised version of the code is here [6]). It is basically Scot> a hook function which converts footnotes with reference Scot> names[fn:named_note] to plain, numbered footnotes, like Muse and Scot> org-mode support. It operates on a temporary buffer just before Scot> export to LaTeX or HTML, so is transparent to the user. I'm the author of this little hack. I've not found any other simple way to handle footnote, and in particular in spite of my efforts, I did never manage to have footnote+ working reliably. I think all the suggestions you make in your mail make sens. In any case, I think the solution must behave like latex (and like my hack). This means in org documents footnotes sould be either anonymous, like in latex \footnote{footnote content ...} or named by keyword, not by ordered numbers. That way, you can preserve the flow of your writing and keep easy to look both at the reference and the definition. And, obviously, you don't renumber everything each time you insert a new footnote. My personnal vote goes to anonymous footnotes, like in latex. -- Paul