From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric S Fraga Subject: Re: Citation syntax: Underscore MUST(?) be allowed in cite keys? Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 19:26:47 +0000 Message-ID: <87385et1jc.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> References: <54F75222.8030805@gmail.com> <87pp8o1t9f.fsf@gmx.us> <87pp8o6nt9.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87fv9i9z8s.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87bnk60zhc.fsf@berkeley.edu> <54FA9AA9.9070505@gmail.com> <87r3t05okc.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87ioeci6f6.fsf@gmx.us> <87r3szk6q9.fsf@gmx.us> <87oao3yluf.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87k2yqyx55.fsf@berkeley.edu> <871tkyxgjg.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <877fuquk3m.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59706) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YV3KN-0002ly-Jh for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 15:27:00 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YV3KI-0003CL-Gf for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 15:26:59 -0400 Received: from mail-am1on0129.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([157.56.112.129]:25523 helo=emea01-am1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YV3KI-0003C5-7u for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 15:26:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Thomas S. Dye's message of "Mon, 9 Mar 2015 08:44:21 -1000") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: "Thomas S. Dye" Cc: Richard Lawrence , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Monday, 9 Mar 2015 at 08:44, Thomas S. Dye wrote: [...] > No, you have it right and clearly have a use for shortcuts. If you want > to type shortcut citations yourself, then the choice is either to accept > some kind of terminator, e.g. {}, or a restriction that citation keys > not end in punctuation characters. Well, I think it's important to consider user interface issues. Simple things should be simple to do and common activities likewise. Only if there is a conflict should we need to choose. Given that most citations are unlikely to end in punctuation, the easy to use syntax should be for the majority cases and should not need to cater for punctuation. I would hate to have to type {} at the end of every simple citation, especially as I suffer from RSI and those characters are particularly annoying... > It's been years since I've actually typed in a citation. Reftex and > Ebib both do a flawless job and I rely on them completely now. > Shortcuts aren't useful in this work flow. True but this doesn't obviate the need to consider non-automated input. In any case, none of the decisions need affect me should I dislike the solution actually implemented in the end. That's the great thing about org and plain text! -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.0.50.1, Org release_8.3beta-843-ga5f1a3.dirty