From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Stefan Huchler Subject: Re: Call for an Emacs Library Developer Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 07:14:43 +0200 Message-ID: <8737jicr2t.fsf@jupiter.lan> References: <580ED851.50407@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54774) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bzd2C-0004wy-P1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 01:15:25 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bzd29-00027J-Ia for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 01:15:24 -0400 Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=50924 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bzd29-00026X-B8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 01:15:21 -0400 Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bzd1l-0003xt-VX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 07:14:57 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Greg Troxel writes: > https://github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android > > And there is a fork/rewrite which I didn't know about, but looks interesting: > > https://github.com/wizmer/syncorg Would be neat if there would be a f-droid build, else you have to access somehow complicated to the apk. btw are the android build tools and libs all opensource? I have problems to see android as a viable future for me, java is a horrible development plattform when I just look how much stuff you have to install to develop for android, and use their tools then the many useless strange lines of code you have to use. I am not very excited about ubuntu touch too, but there we have at least qt and c++ and maybe even python bindings. I know thats slightly off topic, but it relates a bit to the situation why there are so few free software is availible for android. We have at the moment around 2000 Apps in F-droid and 780 ("opensource") real apps for ubuntu touch and around 180 scopes and another 340 App snaps including a native emacs "app". When you understand that the first phone with ubuntu touch was sold 9/2014 and only one device was sold in lower numbers, while the Nexus One hit 1/2010 the market that numbers of u-touch apps is very impressive. Also focus more on ubuntu touch (and I am open to other suggestions) would not lower the development (time) costs, but also the reusability of code, some c++ / python code can be used in opensource desktop programs. You basicly only have to replace the gui at worst if the ubuntu libs dont do that automaticly for you, while Android apps are nearly worthless outside android. Its a big Vendor-Lockin despite beeing opensource the investment in the javaplattform and the google environment are huge. Hope thats not to off-topic. Most apps do very little things still they are extremly hard to develop, cause nearly no opensource developer uses java. java is ok for some enterprise things or serverside, but its just not good for user-application/apps development. I am not shure if that relates to your topic, but people should maybe consider for which plattform to develop makes most sense.