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By comparison, \(=E2=80=A6\) has much less =E2=80= =99surprising=E2=80=99 behaviour. >> If we do deprecate support for $=E2=80=A6$, it might also be a good idea= to >> see if we can add a utility function which would make it easier for >> people to migrate existing documents to the new/alternative syntax. For >> the same reason it is hard to reliably parse $=E2=80=A6$ syntax, we prob= ably >> can=E2=80=99t automate that transition, but we should be able to reduce = the effort >> required to update existing documents. Tim, as mentioned before I=E2=80=99m strongly in favour of a ~half decade t= ransition including utility functions to shift existing TeX constructs to LaTeX, and adding warnings, well before dropping support. All the best, Timothy --=-=-=--