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So, I don't think anybody would use it without this intention, and > therefore there is no need to introduce these extra key strokes. People do all kinds of weird things including deeply nested entry on top. I did not mean toggling, I did mean only having the proposed behavior only with C-u 0 S- key sequence. In any case, I now reviewed the manual and I think that you can use alternative approach to set which headings are visible in overview folding state. Try #+STARTUP: show3levels * 1 Text 1 ** 2 Text 2 *** 3 Text 3 **** 4 Text 4 and then C-u C-u -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at