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From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Bind `org-fold-hide-subtree' by default in Org Mode.
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 11:01:09 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87356xws6i.fsf@red-bean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tt5e1f$15g7$1@ciao.gmane.io> (Max Nikulin's message of "Wed, 22 Feb 2023 22:57:34 +0700")

On 22 Feb 2023, Max Nikulin wrote:
>On 22/02/2023 14:29, Karl Fogel wrote:
>> I put it on "C-<tab>" because that's normally unbound in Org 
>> Mode,
>> and because so many of the Org Mode cycling commands involve
>> modified tab already.
>Perhaps C-<tab> is not the best choice:
>author Bastien Mon Jun 1 14:39:28 2020 +0200
>Bind `org-force-cycle-archived' to C-c C-TAB
>* lisp/org-keys.el (org-mode-map): Bind 
>to C-c C-TAB instead of C-TAB to avoid conflict with native Emacs

Ah, clearly it is not a good choice -- thank you for noticing 

I think there are two separate questions here:

1) Would it be useful to bind `org-fold-hide-subtree' by default?

2) If yes to (1), then is there a good key to bind it to?  (C-c 
C-something, I guess.)

If we agree on (1), then let's figure out the answer to (2).  I 
don't know if anyone else agrees about (1) yet, though.

By the way, the binding in my Org Mode hook looks like this:

  (when (not (keymap-lookup nil "C-<tab>"))
    (keymap-local-set "C-<tab>" 'org-fold-hide-subtree))

So FWIW C-<tab> is not bound in Org Mode buffers for me, in Emacs 
30.x (i.e., recent development builds).  However, I agree with 
Bastien's logic: C-<tab> is not in the reserved keymap space, so 
Emacs might bind it (and perhaps does bind it in other modes).

I don't know how widely-used `org-cycle-force-archived' is (that's 
the new name of that function).  I don't use it, personally, so if 
we decide against (1)+(2) above, then perhaps I'll just override 
that binding for myself instead.

Best regards,

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-22 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-22  7:29 PROPOSAL: Bind `org-fold-hide-subtree' by default in Org Mode Karl Fogel
2023-02-22 15:57 ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-22 17:01   ` Karl Fogel [this message]
2023-02-23  2:35     ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-23  4:48       ` Samuel Wales
2023-02-25  8:01         ` Key binding in help (was: Re: PROPOSAL: Bind `org-fold-hide-subtree' by default in Org Mode.) Max Nikulin
2023-02-25 23:32           ` Samuel Wales
2023-03-08 15:27             ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-23 19:02       ` PROPOSAL: Bind `org-fold-hide-subtree' by default in Org Mode Karl Fogel
2023-02-25  0:13         ` Karl Fogel
2023-02-25 11:26           ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-25 17:33             ` Karl Fogel

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