* [22] [newbie] install remember?
@ 2009-07-20 6:23 Tom Roche
2009-07-20 7:10 ` Bastien
2009-07-20 7:47 ` Memnon Anon
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From: Tom Roche @ 2009-07-20 6:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hopefully this question isn't too stupid, but I'm up past my bedtime
and I've been looking at a lotta docs and not finding an answer to
* specific question: if I'm running a (GNU) emacs 22 (like the current
stock ubuntu
http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/emacs
), do I need to install remember.el separately? (I'm thinking
"yes.") If so,
** which version? (I'm thinking "2.0")
** where should I have read which remember I need to install?
(presuming I do)
* general question: is there an "elisp which"? E.g. code that will
** (useful) given the name of an elisp package (e.g. "remember"),
return a boolean: 't if that package has been loaded, 'nil if not.
OTTOMH all I got--which doesn't give version, and is way lame--is
to C-h a <some part of the package name/>: if that returns nothing
... no such interactive commands are defined. Lame, but better than
nothing.
** (better) code that will map the name of an elisp package into the
location of its "main" file? or all files in the package?
Just asking because, if I knew that, I probably wouldn't need to be
asking the specific question: I could see if a remember*.el had
already been loaded by my init.el without my setting anything up.
TIA, Tom Roche <Tom_Roche@pobox.com>
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* Re: [22] [newbie] install remember?
2009-07-20 6:23 Tom Roche
@ 2009-07-20 7:10 ` Bastien
2009-07-20 7:47 ` Memnon Anon
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From: Bastien @ 2009-07-20 7:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode; +Cc: Tom Roche
Hi Tom,
Tom Roche <Tom_Roche@pobox.com> writes:
> * specific question: if I'm running a (GNU) emacs 22 (like the current
> stock ubuntu
>
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/emacs
>
> ), do I need to install remember.el separately? (I'm thinking
> "yes.") If so,
To my knowledge, remember is included in Emacs 23, not Emacs 22.
See http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/RememberMode :
,----[ History ]
| 2008-04-16: Remember 2.0 released. Remember is now included with Emacs
| as of Emacs 23.
`----
> ** which version? (I'm thinking "2.0")
Presumably.
> ** where should I have read which remember I need to install?
> (presuming I do)
What says Org's manual in Emacs 22 about remember? I guess it
says to install it separately? Or maybe you are using a newer
version of Org? If the current manual (Org 6.28trans) should
be clearer about this let me know.
> * general question: is there an "elisp which"? E.g. code that will
(featurep 'remember)
HTH,
--
Bastien
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* Re: [22] [newbie] install remember?
2009-07-20 6:23 Tom Roche
2009-07-20 7:10 ` Bastien
@ 2009-07-20 7:47 ` Memnon Anon
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From: Memnon Anon @ 2009-07-20 7:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hey ;)
Tom Roche <Tom_Roche@pobox.com> writes:
> ** where should I have read which remember I need to install?
> (presuming I do)
Have a look at http://orgmode.org/manual/Remember.html#Remember or
in your local org documentation s.v. 9. Remember.
If anything remains unclear, do not hesitate to ask again ;).
Any suggestions, where you would have expected this information?
Maybe a sentence like:
"Orgmodes functionality is vastly improved by the remember package,
which is not included in emacs 22. The installation of Remember Mode is
covered in <Link> Chapter 9 </Link>."
could be added to 1.2 or 1.3 of the orgmanual ...
On the other hand, imho its not that hard to find ...
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* Re: [22] [newbie] install remember?
@ 2009-07-20 17:30 Tom Roche
2009-07-20 19:07 ` Bastien
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From: Tom Roche @ 2009-07-20 17:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
(edited with org-mode :-)
Tom Roche Mon, 20 Jul 2009 02:23:35 -0400 (EDT)
>>> * specific question: if I'm running a (GNU) emacs 22 (like the
>>> current stock ubuntu
>>> http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/emacs
>>> ), do I need to install remember.el separately? (I'm thinking
>>> "yes.")
Bastien Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:59:39 +0200
> I have slightly modified the paragraph describing remember.el in
> org.texi like this:
> | The Remember package by John Wiegley lets you store quick notes
> | with little interruption of your work flow.
> + It is an excellent way to add new notes and tasks to Org files.
> + The remember.el package is part of Emacs 23, not Emacs 22.
> | See http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/RememberMode for more
> | information. Org significantly expands the possibilities of
Thanks, much better. Presumably that will filter into
http://orgmode.org/org.pdf
http://orgmode.org/manual/index.html
as well? since those were what I was working from. (Because
`make install-info-debian` did not work for me, but
init.el
> (add-to-list 'Info-default-directory-list
> ; current version of org, as of 19 Jul 09
> ; from http://orgmode.org/
> ; must be installed: see
> ; http://orgmode.org/manual/Installation.html#Installation
> ; and logfile.090719
> (concat MY-LOCAL-EMACS-LISP-DIR "/" ORG-VERSION "/doc")
does now.) You might also link to section 9.1 from section 1.2
(Installation). (Is the top-level doc worg-able? An idle question at
this point, since getting org-mode setup is a subtask of "organizing
my life in plain text," and setting up git is farther down the
priority list.)
One more doc suggestion:
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/RememberMode#toc7
>>>> Setting up for OrgMode
>>>> Basically you should follow the instructions in the org-mode info
>>>> file. However this currently forgets that you also need something
>>>> like this in your .emacs:
>>>> (require 'remember)
appears to be correct, since
http://orgmode.org/manual/Setting-up-Remember.html#Setting-up-Remember
>>>>> 9.1.1 Setting up Remember
>>>>> The following customization will tell Remember to use Org files
>>>>> as target, and to create annotations compatible with Org links.
>>>>> (org-remember-insinuate)
>>>>> (setq org-directory "~/path/to/my/orgfiles/")
>>>>> (setq org-default-notes-file (concat org-directory "/notes.org"))
>>>>> (define-key global-map "\C-cr" 'org-remember)
>>> * general question: is there an "elisp which"?
Bastien Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:59:39 +0200
>> (featurep 'remember)
pre-install *scratch*
> (featurep 'remember)
> nil
post-install *scratch*
> (featurep 'remember)
> t
Double thanks! Tom Roche <Tom_Roche@pobox.com>
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* Re: [22] [newbie] install remember?
2009-07-20 17:30 [22] [newbie] install remember? Tom Roche
@ 2009-07-20 19:07 ` Bastien
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From: Bastien @ 2009-07-20 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode; +Cc: Tom Roche
Tom Roche <Tom_Roche@pobox.com> writes:
> Thanks, much better. Presumably that will filter into
>
> http://orgmode.org/org.pdf
> http://orgmode.org/manual/index.html
>
> as well?
Yes, done.
> does now.) You might also link to section 9.1 from section 1.2
> (Installation). (Is the top-level doc worg-able? An idle question at
> this point, since getting org-mode setup is a subtask of "organizing
> my life in plain text," and setting up git is farther down the
> priority list.)
The 1.2 section is about installing Org. People interested in
using Remember will go to the Remember section.
> One more doc suggestion:
>
> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/RememberMode#toc7
If the suggestion is to add (require 'remember) it is not necessary,
the function `org-require-remember' in `org-remember-insinuate' is
taking care of it.
> Double thanks! Tom Roche <Tom_Roche@pobox.com>
You're welcome,
--
Bastien
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