From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: Re: Re: Back from FOSDEM Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:13:55 +0100 Message-ID: <871v3jj2rw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87tygg2n2w.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=36964 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PmSmr-0004Qa-Mb for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 10:14:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PmSmp-0002UR-Vu for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 10:13:57 -0500 Received: from mail-ww0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:58232) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PmSmp-0002Ty-QV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 10:13:55 -0500 Received: by wwb17 with SMTP id 17so4789101wwb.30 for ; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 07:13:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Andrea Crotti's message of "Mon, 07 Feb 2011 14:57:03 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Andrea Crotti Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Andrea, Andrea Crotti writes: > I was there and you all did a great job, thanks! Thanks! > The only things that could be made better imho is the readability. > The font was too small for all three presenters, and the minibuffer > unreadable already from the middle of the room. Yes, I should have tested that before the conference. > Also something to popup the keys (is there anything like growl for > linux) would be very useful in this kind of presentation I tested key-mon (https://code.google.com/p/key-mon/) which looks nice at first glance, but modifiers keys are only displayed for a limited time. E.g. when you keep the control key pressed for C-c C-x C-c, it will only display Control + c -- then x then c, which might be a bit confusing. I would love to hear about other tools for GNU/Linux. >> Note for later: when talking to hackers, forget about the slides and >> have direct fun with an Org-mode buffer, display the *magic* of with no >> taboo -- questions will come along as you hit some neat feature. > > Not totally sure, some slides for giving the same background to everyone > are always useful, and they increase the hype and curiousity to see the > tool in practice. > > I think that in general hackers always don't stand very well magic, they > would always like to know what key was pressed, what command given and > so on to do them by themselves. Fully agreed. >> One point I made : what's special about Org is that it's a reflexive >> tool, one that lets you discover the way you work and the way you want >> to work. Forget about getting "disciplined" by some external digital >> secretary, start by having fun discovering yourself with a tool that >> has virtually no learning curve (or "just" that of Emacs itself...) >> > > Yes that was a very nice point, might steal it in the future ;) Steal it! :) Best, -- Bastien