From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nicolas Goaziou Subject: [RFC] About `org-export-with-\(fixed-width\|tables\)' Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 21:36:24 +0100 Message-ID: <871u1999rr.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49421) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VtNqo-0007hM-1T for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:36:22 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VtNqf-0000Q0-LF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:36:13 -0500 Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]:52414) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VtNqf-0000Pv-Dc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:36:05 -0500 Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id bz8so1233009wib.5 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 12:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from selenimh ([91.224.148.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p9sm3752530wia.10.2013.12.18.12.36.02 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 18 Dec 2013 12:36:03 -0800 (PST) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Org Mode List Hello, At the moment, `org-export-with-fixed-width' and `org-export-with-tables' (or their OPTIONS equivalent ::t and |:t) are broken when not set to their default value. Also, "fixing" them is not trivial. I think this is a good time to ponder about their usefulness. Indeed, I don't think anyone would want to remove tables (or fixed-width areas) from Org syntax. These variables were probably written because tables and fixed-width can occasionally get in the way, on very specific lines. However, Org already provides ways to work around such problems. For example, a table can be wrapped within an example block, or an offending line can start with \vert instead of "|". Therefore, in today's Org, they don't make much sense anymore. As a consequence, I'd like to either: 1. Remove them completely from code base; 2. Change their meaning so they behave like `org-export-with-toc' or `org-export-with-tags', that is: when `org-export-with-tables' is set to nil, all tables are ignored during export. I don't think option 2 is really useful, but I don't mind either way. WDYT? Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou