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Davis writes: > It is interesting that an old timer like yourself would reach > for > Spacemacs. I haven't, mostly because I don't think I need the > modal model > of Vi. The keybindings of Emacs or so convenient and > intelligent I find > them to be enough. Here's where I might have spent more time in > the early > days learning the basics better. One of the things I like about > Emacs is > that I can dance around a page of text, in a manner that the > commercially > produced text editors and word processors I know have not dared > to > implement. We are locked in to a dumbed down interface in all > the software > we encounter. I cannot think of one example just now, but maybe > the way > one can move back and forth over characters and words. I never > learned Vi, > except to be able to edit a simple config file if need be. > > I know I am over my head, and I have been so for the 30-ish > years I have > been using Emacs and for the time I have used Org-mode. It is > more than I > can do to keep up with the newer complexities that are cropping > up. Yet, > just like the plain text files, and the LaTeX source for my one > publication, a lexicon of animal names, they live on while > documents using > the high priced tools are not longer readable or editable. And > through all > the changes, my little utilities for editing things that only I > could > probably care about, and I would not expect anyone to care to > learn---they > still work today. I love it! > FYI, from another old-timer in over his head, Spacemacs has a simple option to enable Emacs key bindings. You don't need to use the modal bindings. hth, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye https://tsdye.online/tsdye