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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Timothy <orgmode@tec.tecosaur.net>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [POLL] Naming of "export features"
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 12:23:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871qmhdh3l.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h6vfnl3a.fsf@tec.tecosaur.net>

Timothy <orgmode@tec.tecosaur.net> writes:

> Here is a list of terms which I’d feel comfortable applying to the system:
> ⁃ export features
> ⁃ export capabilities
> ⁃ export snippets

I am looking at the concept again, and I feel that we may be missing
some flexibility here. I do not like the fact that each feature can only
have a simple implementation within specific backend.

Imagine that we would like add a top _and also_ bottom comment when the
Org buffer contains emoji. With the proposed patch, it will be

I am thinking about something conceptually similar, but more general.

Instead of detecting "features" in the whole document, let's consider
that for every exported Org element (including org-data, representing
the whole document) we may emit different export output depending on
certain condition being satisfied for either original Org raw source of
the exported element, the element AST, or the exported element contents.
Let's call it "transcoder conditions".

What I have in mind is an ability to parametrize the transcoders like
the following:

(org-export-define-backend 'html
 '((paragraph . ((paragraph-is-a-link? figure-transcoder :name figure)
                 (:unless 'figure paragraph-transcoder))))
 '((paragraph . ((paragraph-is-a-link? (lambda (paragraph contents info)...))))))

Several ideas in the above:
1. Name features as "transcoder conditions"
2. The transcoder conditions are now linked to specific Org AST element.
   They may not only be matched against the whole parse tree + whole raw
   Org text, but also against the specific branch of AST + chunk of raw
   Org text corresponding to the branch + the actual exported contents
   of the AST children.
3. "feature implementations" are no longer needed. Instead, export
   transcoders can contain the implementation lists inline. Each
   implementation is selected not only depending on the presence of the
   "feature"/transcoder condition, but also depending on multiple
   features or arbitrary lisp expression results.
4. :when/:prevents apply to specific (possibly named) implementations.
   This makes more sense than matching against feature.
   For example, presence of svg images in latex export may or may not
   mean that \usepackage{svg} is being used, depending on svg
   implementation. We want to match against \usepackage{svg}
   specifically rather than only against the presence of svg images.


Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-22 12:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-10 17:20 [PATCH] Introduce "export features" Timothy
2023-02-11 11:37 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-20 17:41 ` Timothy
2023-02-24 12:51   ` Sébastien Miquel
2023-02-24 12:59     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-24 21:47       ` Sébastien Miquel
2023-02-26 12:19         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-26 13:04           ` Sébastien Miquel
2023-02-27 19:05             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-25  3:15     ` Timothy
2023-02-21 14:22 ` [POLL] Naming of " Timothy
2023-02-22  1:46   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-02-22  2:40     ` Timothy
2023-02-23 15:55       ` No Wayman
2023-02-23 16:17         ` No Wayman
2023-02-22 12:23   ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-02-23 15:31     ` No Wayman
2023-02-23 16:04     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2023-02-23 19:04       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-23 19:55     ` Sébastien Miquel
2023-02-24 10:27       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-24 12:46         ` Sébastien Miquel
2023-02-24 13:03           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-24 21:38             ` Sébastien Miquel
2023-02-26 12:28               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-26 14:06                 ` Sébastien Miquel
2023-02-27 19:32                   ` Ihor Radchenko
     [not found] <mailman.336.1676990100.5072.emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
2023-02-23 15:06 ` No Wayman
2023-03-01  8:26 Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2023-03-01  9:41 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-01 11:38   ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2023-03-02 11:30     ` Ihor Radchenko

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