From: "Juan Manuel Macías" <maciaschain@posteo.net>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [patch] ox-latex.el: Add `LATEX_PRE_HEADER' keyword
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2023 12:31:11 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <871qeiscmo.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uf3j9f$62n$1@ciao.gmane.io> (Max Nikulin's message of "Thu, 28 Sep 2023 17:07:41 +0700")
Max Nikulin writes:
> LaTeX code may be inserted
> - before \DocumentMetadata
> - between \DocumentMetadata and \documentclass
> - between \documentclass and preamble added by Org
> - between Org preamble and \begin{document}
The first two cases can be solved perfectly with LaTeX_pre_header,
without having to complicate your life further.
> Since ordering is important [...]
Starting with \documentclass, the order is important in certain cases
and not so important in others. And, anyway, you can always use a hook
like \AtBegin... \AtEnd..., etc.
And if users want to have complete control over the preamble (that is,
everything before \begin{document}), they can always define a new class
(in Org terminology) or write a preamble or a sty file in a separate Org
document using org-babel and literary programming. In a job I'm doing
now my preamble has 1736 lines. Writing it with org-babel is quite
comfortable. In short, I think (IMHO) Org already has enough resources
for those situations.
> I consider \begin{filecontents*}{\jobname.xmpdata} as an acceptable
> (but perhaps fragile) hack for LaTeX-first document. During export of
> Org file, this file should be written directly with values from Org
> metadata.
I think I should insist on what I said in my previous message, with a
copy/paste:
The thing is that here it is not a question of whether something can be
done in this way or in another better way. This is how a given package
recommends doing it. If the user wants to use that specific package, she/he
will have to follow these instructions. It's more. I am thinking, for
example, of the case in which the user has to obtain a * tex file, not a
PDF, because she/he is collaborating with more people who do not use
Org, but do use that code in the * tex document.
Apart from that, since any code (except \usepackage) is allowed before
\documentclass, I think that the user should have the possibility (and
the freedom) to enter in their *tex documents whatever they want in that
place, including comments, luacode, shebangs, etc.
--
Juan Manuel Macías
https://juanmanuelmacias.com
https://lunotipia.juanmanuelmacias.com
https://gnutas.juanmanuelmacias.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-28 12:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-16 18:00 [patch] ox-latex.el: Add `LATEX_PRE_HEADER' keyword Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-17 10:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-17 17:23 ` Timothy
2023-09-18 8:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-22 16:38 ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-24 18:42 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-25 13:58 ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-25 18:49 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-25 21:57 ` Thomas S. Dye
2023-09-26 15:39 ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-26 19:12 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-28 10:07 ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-28 12:31 ` Juan Manuel Macías [this message]
2023-09-29 2:38 ` Max Nikulin
2023-10-01 16:32 ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-28 15:36 ` AW
2023-10-01 16:02 ` Max Nikulin
2023-10-01 17:48 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-10-02 10:42 ` Max Nikulin
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