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From: Martin Steffen <msteffen@ifi.uio.no>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Depreciating TeX-style LaTeX fragments
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 10:23:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86tue4kpa3.fsf@login.ifi.uio.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1d89ed13-328b-dd8a-c93d-78c64e8f90c9@posteo.eu> (=?utf-8?Q?=22S=C3=A9bastien?= Miquel"'s message of "Sun, 16 Jan 2022 08:08:11 +0000")


to add my two cents. I am latex user of _many_ years (as user of emacs +
org), and I use it often for math-loaded texts.

I do use $ (I actually did not even know that \( \) is (supposed to be)
the new way  until I saw it generated by org.

As for $$ (or \[), I basically don't use it. I use

I don't care that it's a lot to type in, as I use an editor, that
assists me (said emacs ;-) resp. auc-tex mode).

I like the keybindings for environments there (and with the usual prefix
C-u C-x C-e, one can for instance turn a display-math into an equation,
should one decide later).

$$ I never used. The display-math simply looks nicer and is better
supported by auc-tex in that it uses standard indentation for
environments. For me it's likewise important that the text is properly
indented, and highlighted, so I can read the source file with easy,
while working on it.

Also \[ \] does proper indentation, but as said, I got used to C-x C-e
and that produces for me displaymath (probably it can be customized, but
I am happy with it as is).


>>>>> "Sébastien" == Sébastien Miquel <sebastien.miquel@posteo.eu> writes:

    Sébastien> Hi,

    Sébastien> With respect to readability, I only mean to point out
    Sébastien> that the $…$ syntax is one less character, and that the
    Sébastien> \(\) characters are quite overloaded.

    >> this is a good opportunity to point out that $/$$ are very much
    >> second class citizens in LaTeX now, no matter what you may see in
    >> old documents.

    Sébastien> The posts that you quote are 10 years old. As per [0]
    Sébastien> (2020), there will be no LaTeX3. Nor is it only old
    Sébastien> documents that use the $…$ syntax : looking for learning
    Sébastien> ressources (see [1]), everything that I find uses
    Sébastien> it. That includes The Not So Short Introduction to LaTeX
    Sébastien> [2] (2021) and
    Sébastien> https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Mathematics.

    Sébastien> Although I have no evidence of this, my expectation is
    Sébastien> that the majority of tex users use the $…$ syntax (it is
    Sébastien> in fact widely used outside of tex: in most markdown
    Sébastien> flavors and texmacs for example). I also expect that a
    Sébastien> significant proportion of tex users are not aware of the
    Sébastien> \(…\) syntax. I think here of users that are less tech
    Sébastien> literate than most of this mailing list.

    Sébastien> Regards,

    Sébastien> [0]:
    Sébastien> https://www.latex-project.org/publications/2020-FMi-TUB-tb128mitt-quovadis.pdf
    Sébastien> [1]:
    Sébastien> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/11/what-are-good-learning-resources-for-a-latex-beginner
    Sébastien> [2]:
    Sébastien> https://ctan.tetaneutral.net/info/lshort/english/lshort.pdf

    Sébastien> -- Sébastien Miquel

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-16  9:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-09 18:02 Org Syntax Specification Timothy
2022-01-15 12:40 ` Sébastien Miquel
2022-01-15 16:36   ` Depreciating TeX-style LaTeX fragments (was: Org Syntax Specification) Timothy
2022-01-16  8:08     ` Sébastien Miquel
2022-01-16  9:23       ` Martin Steffen [this message]
2022-01-16  9:46       ` Depreciating TeX-style LaTeX fragments Colin Baxter 😺
2022-01-16 11:11         ` Tim Cross
2022-01-16 13:26         ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-01-16 14:43           ` Colin Baxter 😺
2022-01-16 15:16             ` Greg Minshall
2022-01-16 17:45         ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-01-16 12:10     ` Eric S Fraga
2022-01-16 14:30       ` Anthony Cowley
2022-01-18  0:54 ` Org Syntax Specification Tom Gillespie
2022-01-18 12:09   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-19  1:22     ` Tom Gillespie
2022-01-19 11:58       ` Ihor Radchenko

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