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[2001:44b8:31f2:bb00:842a:7361:87c7:2662]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a202-20020a621ad3000000b005380c555ba1sm5240103pfa.13.2022.09.22.19.54.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 22 Sep 2022 19:54:12 -0700 (PDT) References: <871qs6ygmv.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkrasnla.fsf@localhost> <871qs6li9l.fsf@gnu.org> <874jx2wqgi.fsf@tec.tecosaur.net> <87czbq7ach.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsgmqu1h.fsf@localhost> <87r105xicb.fsf@localhost> <87a66ra45s.fsf@localhost> <87mtar2yph.fsf@gnu.org> <86y1ubdmrm.fsf@gmail.com> <87k05u95o4.fsf@localhost> User-agent: mu4e 1.9.0; emacs 29.0.50 From: Tim Cross To: Ihor Radchenko Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: Matrix (was Re: IM dev discussions?) 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Makes me really miss >> newsgroups! It seems like almost every project I'm interested in these >> days is using a different solution for IM. (one reason I stopped using >> IRC was because most of the projects I was interested in stopped using >> it or the majority of interesting discussions moved to some other platform). > > There are also bridges from * to IRC. See > https://web.archive.org/web/20220607072519/https://200ok.ch/posts/2019-11-01_irc_and_emacs_all_the_things.html > https://wiki.bitlbee.org/ > >> To avoid a proliferation of IM apps, I get the impression you could use >> Matrix and get access to many different messaging environments. Is this >> correct and is the Emacs matrix client mature/stable? > > Emacs matrix client is ement.el developed by @alphapapa. It has been > recently released on GNU ELPA. So, you can see it as stable enough. > > However, Matrix protocol itself is not yet stable. Something to keep in > mind. OK, thanks. Will check out those links.....