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[220.235.181.183]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x22-20020a170902821600b001873aa85e1fsm10127142pln.305.2022.11.21.14.20.48 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 21 Nov 2022 14:20:49 -0800 (PST) References: <874jusk9gg.fsf@localhost> User-agent: mu4e 1.9.3; emacs 29.0.50 From: Tim Cross To: Ihor Radchenko Cc: flexibeast@gmail.com, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: [MAINTENANCE] Org orphanage? 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Similar to > https://github.com/emacsorphanage > > We may temporarily use Org mailing list as a place to report bugs. > > - This will give a better chance for interested people to contribute, > and hopefully take over the work on abandoned packages. > > - We can also guarantee some (very) minimal maintenance. > > - And it will promote Org mailing list as a place to discuss Org-related > staff. > > WDYT? I think it is an excellent idea. A rename to something like org-orphanage would also be good as it makes the status of these packages much clearer and may encourage adoption of those packages people find useful.