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That option is not mentioned on their pricing page at all. Looking at it, it seems there are restrictions and it is at their discretion (you have to apply). There are also bandwidth limits, but I don't know what our 'normal' usage is and what it would be using the discourse UI. Basically, we only get 50k page views per month. Their definition is "Page views All requests for content such as a list of categories, topics, or posts, count as page views, whether by a human or a web crawler. Any request that reaches our servers and incurs significant work will be counted as a page view." If you assume 10 posts per day, that would allow only around 178 views per post. That feels a little low to me. However, this could be completely wrong a it isn't easy to tell exactly what data is transferred with each request. It isn't easy to know exactly which clicks on UI elements result in a new data request. The concern would be that if it did turn out to be a popular solution, we could end up needing to purchase the 'standard' plan and while we wold get that at a discounted price, it is an expense that would need to be met. (the standard plan would give us 100k page views per month).