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From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: Tom Gillespie <tgbugs@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Org-syntax: Intra-word markup
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 21:52:17 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <868df76e-69e0-1d14-ae8a-13b746982fcf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+G3_POqneJUXz2G5MTOboH0Br_0K0MVzaUuEVcmZnBKs3g6NA@mail.gmail.com>

On 05/12/2021 04:48, Tom Gillespie wrote:
>> Since org is a valid export backend though, perhaps this behaviour should be
>> reserved for @@:…@@, i.e. no export backend, which I think semantically fits
>> fairly nicely.
> 
> ...
> 
> What this means is that @@:...@@ syntax is not actually used
> in Org at all at the moment and renders as plain text. I agree that
> we need to avoid @@org:..@@ because it has legitimate uses.
> Making a back-end of empty string valid for parse separately
> syntax thus makes @@ syntax more regular overall, and allows
> @@:...@@ to be processed separately because it currently
> never enters the export snippet processing.

It seems that @@:...@@ should behave significantly different from 
regular export snippet since org markup should be parsed inside.

It could be used for one more purpose. I miss "fallback" option for 
export snippets. E.g. if explicit raw markup is specified for HTML and 
LaTeX, it would be nice to have something for other backends such as 
ascii or odt. In the series of adjacent export snippets @@:...@@ may be 
taken when backends in earlier snippets are not matched:

     @@html:HTML 1@@@@latex:LaTeX 1@@@@:ascii and odt 1@@@@html: HTML 
2@@@@:LaTeX, ascii, and odt 2@@.

At first I complained that it would be impossible to put export snippets 
in "parse separately" construct with @@:...@@ syntax. Likely it is not 
necessary. It is a bit verbose, but "parse separately" may be split:
    @@:part 1@@@@html:html-only@@@@:@@@@:part 2@@
Empty @@:@@ is added to avoid considering @@:part 2@@ as a fallback for 
"html-only".


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-28 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-02 10:50 Denis Maier
2021-12-02 11:18 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-02 11:30   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-02 11:36     ` Denis Maier
2021-12-02 12:01       ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-02 11:42     ` Marco Wahl
2021-12-02 11:50       ` Denis Maier
2021-12-02 12:10         ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-02 12:40           ` Denis Maier
2021-12-02 12:54             ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-02 13:14               ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-02 13:28                 ` Denis Maier
2021-12-02 12:48           ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-02 12:02       ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-02 12:00     ` Ihor Radchenko
     [not found]       ` <87r1avtdjy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>
2021-12-02 12:27         ` Denis Maier
2021-12-02 13:06           ` Eric S Fraga
2021-12-02 12:28       ` Denis Maier
2021-12-02 12:55         ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-02 11:58 ` Timothy
2021-12-02 12:26   ` Denis Maier
2021-12-02 13:07     ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-02 15:51       ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-02 18:11         ` Tom Gillespie
2021-12-02 19:09           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-04 13:07             ` Org-syntax: emphasis and not English punctuation Max Nikulin
2021-12-04 16:42               ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-02 20:47           ` Org-syntax: Intra-word markup Denis Maier
2021-12-02 22:44             ` Samuel Wales
2021-12-03 14:53           ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-03 23:51           ` Tim Cross
2021-12-04 15:01             ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-05 23:34               ` Russell Adams
2021-12-05 23:37             ` Russell Adams
2021-12-06  1:39               ` Samuel Wales
2021-12-02 19:03       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-12-02 19:34         ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-02 23:05           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-12-02 23:24             ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-03 14:24         ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-03 15:01           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-04 15:57           ` Denis Maier
2021-12-04 17:53             ` Tom Gillespie
2021-12-04 18:37               ` John Kitchin
2021-12-04 21:16                 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-06 10:57                 ` Raw Org AST snippets for "impossible" markup Max Nikulin
2021-12-06 15:45                   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-06 16:56                     ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-08 13:09                     ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-08 23:19                       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-08 23:35                         ` John Kitchin
2021-12-09  7:01                           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-09 14:56                             ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-09 16:11                               ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-09 22:27                                 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-01-03 14:34                                   ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-04 19:04               ` Org-syntax: Intra-word markup Timothy
2021-12-04 21:48                 ` Tom Gillespie
2021-12-06 10:59                   ` Max Nikulin
2022-01-28 14:52                   ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2022-01-29  3:13                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 13:05                       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-02-02 15:28                         ` Max Nikulin
2022-02-02 20:01                           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-02-03 12:10                             ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-06 11:01               ` Denis Maier
2022-01-28 12:12 ` [PATCH] Intra-word markup: \relax Max Nikulin
2022-01-28 13:13   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-02-02 15:42     ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-02 13:36 Org-syntax: Intra-word markup autofrettage
2021-12-02 15:24 ` Robert Pluim
2021-12-02 17:11   ` autofrettage

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