From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Marco Wahl Subject: Re: [RFC] Document level property drawer Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 09:46:30 +0200 Message-ID: <84r23p576x.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87imp5bs0c.fsf@alphapapa.net> <84d0fciym6.fsf@gmail.com> <8736g66620.fsf@alphapapa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43191) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iHNj7-0002H2-C3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2019 03:46:42 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iHNj6-0000mc-BG for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2019 03:46:41 -0400 Received: from 195-159-176-226.customer.powertech.no ([195.159.176.226]:58038 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iHNj6-0000mS-4b for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2019 03:46:40 -0400 Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iHNj2-000Z8o-2w for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2019 09:46:36 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Adam Porter writes: > Marco Wahl writes: > >> One could even think about letting fade out the "#+"-file-wide >> property definition syntax or at least think about a good place within >> a file or a subtree for those definitions. (There is at least >> Sebastian Miele who wants to keep that syntax as he stated in another >> thread AFAIR.) > > You do realize, don't you, how much software and how many documents such > a change would break? One of the primary reasons Org users use Org is > that its file format is very long-lived and flexible. There are even > academic papers written in Org, exported to LaTeX, and a change such as > that would break them, creating needless work for their authors or other > interested parties to fix them up in order to still be exportable. Please let's forget about fading out the "#+"-file-wide property for now. I understand that the file-wide properties in their current meaning need to stay a good while, maybe even as long as Org lives. Back to the issue of the document level property drawer: could it be we talk about literally nothing when talking about the "breaking"? What is an example which shows how the introduction of a document level property drawer breaks something in the Org universe? (I think there is none.) Ciao, -- Marco