From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Giovanni Ridolfi Subject: Re: how to customize (inactive) timestamp textual format Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:52:14 +0200 Message-ID: <83zkymuldd.fsf@yahoo.it> References: <20100620094925.GA20877@upsilon.cc> <08902A9B-0C7F-41FB-AC8F-BFC65F296B5E@gmail.com> <20100622072316.GA14230@upsilon.cc> <4C208DAD.2060109@manor-farm.org> <64F0D23D-3D32-482C-8F95-ACF82F0FEFCF@gmail.com> <20100622104109.GA17922@upsilon.cc> <4756.1277217311@gamaville.dokosmarshall.org> <20100622164051.GA25088@upsilon.cc> <8822.1277231428@alphaville.usa.hp.com> <20100623080028.GB26395@upsilon.cc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=59445 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ORMd0-0006VO-BH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 05:52:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORMcu-0002eb-2R for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 05:52:17 -0400 Received: from slim-4c.inet.it ([213.92.5.127]:44797) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORMct-0002eJ-Nx for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 05:52:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20100623080028.GB26395@upsilon.cc> (Stefano Zacchiroli's message of "Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:00:28 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Stefano Zacchiroli Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Stefano Zacchiroli writes: D=C3=AC b=C3=A4n s=C3=B3, fant=C3=A8sma! > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 02:30:28PM -0400, Nick Dokos wrote: >> Or they can use the info doc (section 1.1, "Summary") to find the org >> website and follow the link to Worg. Or they can ask on the list. And > > No, they can't, *while they are offline*. So? they have to *wait* until they're online again.=20 Is it so difficult? They have only to 'postpone(GDT)' the=20 solution of such problem.=20 And I believe that the *important features* and tricks are already=20 covered by both the manual and the variable description in the source code.=20 >> once they know how to get there, there will be no need for another >> documentation blob to land on *everybody's* disk. Besides, if they can't > > That is not really a sound counter argument:=20 Sorry to contradict you, but this *is* a counter argument. In mail <20100622104109.GA17922@upsilon.cc> you wrote: >>>> I think it would make sense to "freeze" wort at each org-mode release >>>> and ship a copy of it=20 >>>> in a way that makes it integrated in the Emacs help system. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ and in mail <20100622164051.GA25088@upsilon.cc> you wrote: >>>> Take this just as a feature request entitled=20 >>>> "please ship Worg snapshots as part of the org-mode documentation";=20 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Until now the "org-mode documentation" [i.e. the info file] has=20 been *inside* the org-mode package. So it is perfectly=20 reasonable that *we* understood/inferred that you wanted to ship worg within the org-mode.zip package.=20 > most GNU-Emacs > distributions are package based and can easily split out -doc packages > to avoid wasting space on *everybody's* disk. Thanks for suggesting, /now/, to buid a different package. And I completely agree with you: *if* somebody will package=20 the worg site it *must* be packaged in a=20 *different* package (e.g. 'org-worg') and not in the Org-Mode package. > Well, the Emacs help system is *very* powerful: once you entered a > specific info topic Do you suggest to integrare org-worg in the info system?=20 The files are written in 'org syntax' they should be converted in '(tex)info syntax'. Is it an easy task? I don't think so, but maybe Richard will=20 enlight me again ;-) as he already did with the bandwidth/disk matter. In the end I think that 'git clone' is *the best option*: less work for org-mode developers/maintainer(s) and the people, who want it on their disks, are free to clone it... and also to commit ;-) cheers, Giovanni