From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: Use Emacs' default value of "bidi-paragraph-direction" in orgmode Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 09:12:31 +0300 Message-ID: <83k1qyx7ow.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1529058737.1901.36.camel@gmail.com> <87muvwjgb2.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59267) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUQva-0004KV-Jc for Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 02:12:43 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUQvX-0002pQ-73 for Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 02:12:42 -0400 In-reply-to: <87muvwjgb2.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (message from Nicolas Goaziou on Fri, 15 Jun 2018 16:05:37 +0200) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, smntov@gmail.com > From: Nicolas Goaziou > Cc: Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 16:05:37 +0200 > > ST writes: > > > Please leave the Emacs' default value of "bidi-paragraph-direction" > > which is "nil" in orgmode as well. Right now orgmode seems to force > > "left-to-right", thus blocking "right-to-left". With "nil" it is > > dynamic, which means both directions work well out-of-the box. > > > > Right now I'm forced to add this to my config: > > > > (add-hook 'org-mode-hook > > (lambda () > > (setq bidi-paragraph-direction nil))) > > > > It took me a lot of time to figure out, which makes the first Org steps > > for RTL-newbies quite frustrating... > > It may not be as obvious as you think. See > > for details. For the record: The change to the current default was my suggestion, and I still stand by that advice. I think the current default is correct out of the box for more people than the previous nil value. And I see no catastrophe in a mode hook that overrides the default for those who don't like this default. The defaults cannot possibly DTRT for everyone, only for the majority. Thanks.