From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Leo Subject: org-install.el in Emacs probably should be removed Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:50:15 +0000 Message-ID: <83d4dkyw94.fsf@cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LYblw-0001zk-Co for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:50:40 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LYblu-0001zY-KC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:50:40 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58508 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LYblu-0001zV-Ga for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:50:38 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:50591 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LYblt-0000aQ-Rb for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:50:38 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LYblq-0002al-SB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:50:34 +0000 Received: from sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.223.202]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:50:34 +0000 Received: from sdl.web by sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:50:34 +0000 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Carsten, I just notice there is a dummy file in emacs/lisp/org. The use of this file hides problems away for example if users install org to a dir that is overshadowed by the lisp/org in emacs (this happen quite often to newbies too). Two files with the same name but different content also confuse other users. I think for users using both standalone and included org versions, the cleaner and better way is to use one of the following (load "org-install" t) or (require 'org-install nil t) in their own .emacs files if they want to avoid error (we can put this in the documentation). But I guess some will prefer emacs to throw an error when that org-install that does autoloads is missing. Pointing out the install procedure is only for installing standalone org package is also sufficient. Thus I propose we do away with this dummy file and keep the emacs distribution clean. Best, -- .: Leo :. [ sdl.web AT gmail.com ] .: I use Emacs :.