From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: Enriched/Org is a colorful Org Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 19:21:55 +0300 Message-ID: <83a9p69x0c.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87a9p79gnv.fsf@gmail.com> <20130410095450.GA31506@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51840) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UPxmN-0001RP-JP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 12:21:49 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UPxmJ-0001Mm-Aj for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 12:21:47 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:55502) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UPxmJ-0001MN-1s for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 12:21:43 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0ML100C00RTLXA00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 19:21:40 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > From: Carsten Dominik > Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 12:16:28 +0200 > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > > > On 10 apr. 2013, at 11:54, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 09:32:44AM +0530, Jambunathan K wrote: > >> > >> See "Side note" towards the end of this message > >> > >> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=14157#8 > >> > > > > This request is common enough; every time it comes up overlays are > > proposed as a solution. It would be good if this is available even as a > > library outside of Org. > > Yes, overlays are better. I beg the Org developers to please be very careful when introducing expensive display features such as overlays into Org. Org already puts the Emacs display engine to its limits in many of its popular features; adding overlays to this mess might be too much. I don't know enough about Org to understand why overlays are being considered instead of text properties, but feel free to describe the issues (preferably on emacs-devel) and start a discussion about the possible alternatives.