From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id +jkzFvLw3F52eQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 07 Jun 2020 13:51:46 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id iCuQEfLw3F5iFAAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 07 Jun 2020 13:51:46 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE4C49407C7 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 13:51:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:37862 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jhviC-0001Z0-Oj for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 07 Jun 2020 09:51:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55814) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jhvhp-0001WD-TC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jun 2020 09:51:21 -0400 Received: from devianza.investici.org ([198.167.222.108]:46629) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jhvho-0006WS-7X; Sun, 07 Jun 2020 09:51:21 -0400 Received: from mx2.investici.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by devianza.investici.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730FFE0581; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 13:51:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=anche.no; s=stigmate; t=1591537866; bh=Fp35b72w849AQHCD1bovN+fObEE0CUxBZ1CNplf3KiU=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=fFgMtYSqfDbzeRlAxGFoW4oEXGjO9xyd3QnBviXBQ+yseUNkgKjdC+apNhBiwYZ5c dqSqE5OfCKlZISm3sw5A+W3OeVTfwNyLupqWZpi2y6j93FEc91JCCLrnpVvdnkkS+g DdTSfotowWBQTf+UEBQ+K0ymJIYmKOqWNIITcOAI= Received: from [198.167.222.108] (mx2.investici.org [198.167.222.108]) (Authenticated sender: mariotomo@inventati.org) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3778BE056D; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 13:51:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: issue tracker? To: Bastien References: <87ftbw3mvw.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> <6ffc8465-fdeb-4981-8303-43f09e26e0c1@www.fastmail.com> <20200519073352.GC7874@tuxteam.de> <08ee796b-d541-69f3-518e-f577d9b29f0b@anche.no> <87imgau9ny.fsf@gnu.org> <71f5fa9a-8f55-6869-151a-209f53f86579@anche.no> <874kruzssr.fsf@gnu.org> <878sh5el37.fsf@gnu.org> <22b69acf-1b79-6257-9a97-6515f3841be4@anche.no> <871rms4oe8.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9k3nrl4.fsf@gnu.org> From: Mario Frasca Message-ID: <8387a4b6-cf55-c284-15a8-44a1ccafa220@anche.no> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 08:50:46 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87v9k3nrl4.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------2BEFEBA1598B1519772B807F" Content-Language: en-GB Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.167.222.108; envelope-from=mario@anche.no; helo=devianza.investici.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/06/07 09:51:06 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=anche.no header.s=stigmate header.b=fFgMtYSq; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.79 X-TUID: aSDIj6Et5743 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2BEFEBA1598B1519772B807F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit good day Bastien On 07/06/2020 04:38, Bastien wrote: >> anybody can >> 'vote-for' a bug, and you keep a counter on voted-for. > It would require people to register on updates.orgmode.org. > I'm not sure the expected benefit is really worth it for now. why would it?  you already trust email senders on identity and integrity in all ways, you can also add this one.  a user is an email address.  the benefit, in my eyes, is for you to have a measure of the opinion of (voiceful) users. >> a maintainer can 'confirm' (that fixing that bug is >> desirable). > I think it is important that anyone can confirm a bug. I see differences among -confirming a behaviour, -confirming that a behaviour is a bug, -asserting that a maintainer would accept a "correction".  please drop the subject if you don't want me to argue in favour of something you have already discarded. > That said, I would love to organize a hackathon for Org-mode where > people would gather online for one day, exchange ideas, break and fix > things, propose new features, etc. That is, IMHO, the way to recruit > new contributors, on top of simply formally asking "who would like to > be in charge of X, Y and Z?" I like the `#emacs' irc chatroom on freenode, I discovered it recently.  the more specific chatroom `#org-mode' is less active but not less welcoming.  it was there where I got the hint to write here, and where they told me "no need to subscribe".  or open a new temporary room, but I hope we stay with IRC, which we can use from within an emacs buffer. ciao, Mario --------------2BEFEBA1598B1519772B807F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

good day Bastien

On 07/06/2020 04:38, Bastien wrote:
anybody can
'vote-for' a bug, and you keep a counter on voted-for.

It would require people to register on updates.orgmode.org.
I'm not sure the expected benefit is really worth it for now.

why would it?  you already trust email senders on identity and integrity in all ways, you can also add this one.  a user is an email address.  the benefit, in my eyes, is for you to have a measure of the opinion of (voiceful) users.

a maintainer can 'confirm' (that fixing that bug is
desirable). 

I think it is important that anyone can confirm a bug.

I see differences among -confirming a behaviour, -confirming that a behaviour is a bug, -asserting that a maintainer would accept a "correction".  please drop the subject if you don't want me to argue in favour of something you have already discarded.

That said, I would love to organize a hackathon for Org-mode where
people would gather online for one day, exchange ideas, break and fix
things, propose new features, etc.  That is, IMHO, the way to recruit
new contributors, on top of simply formally asking "who would like to
be in charge of X, Y and Z?"

I like the `#emacs' irc chatroom on freenode, I discovered it recently.  the more specific chatroom `#org-mode' is less active but not less welcoming.  it was there where I got the hint to write here, and where they told me "no need to subscribe".  or open a new temporary room, but I hope we stay with IRC, which we can use from within an emacs buffer.

ciao, Mario


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