I sometimes work with files looking like this BEL EQ 13-Jan-2006 978.85 988.9 1050 983 1025 1024.5 1025.94 276666 2838.429191 BEL EQ 16-Jan-2006 1024.5 1030 1043 1001.5 1003.5 1008.65 1027.02 72409 743.655 BEL EQ 17-Jan-2006 1008.65 1010 1030 985.1 993.75 989.95 1013.83 102589 1040.07 BEL EQ 18-Jan-2006 989.95 984 1006.8 963.6 1002.15 999.45 990.75 94266 933.9413 When I have a few thousand rows like this, this becomes difficult to read, so I tend to a) M-x org-mode b) C-x h followed by C-c | This makes it easier to read as you can see below | BEL | EQ | 02-Jan-2006 | 993.15 | 998 | 1001 | 983 |.. | BEL | EQ | 03-Jan-2006 | 989.05 | 999.5 | 1000 | 989.9 |.. | BEL | EQ | 04-Jan-2006 | 994.35 | 998 | 1014 | 986.15 |.. How do I use the overlay for editing but keep the underlying file structure? If I do an C-C C-e, I get unnecessary headers and the fields are tabbed out and I have to save it as a different file. Ideally, I'd like to keep the file structure as it is and just use org-mode to provide viewing structure while editing. sivaram --
I sometimes work with files looking like this BEL EQ 13-Jan-2006 978.85 988.9 1050 983 1025 1024.5 1025.94 276666 2838.429191 BEL EQ 16-Jan-2006 1024.5 1030 1043 1001.5 1003.5 1008.65 1027.02 72409 743.655 BEL EQ 17-Jan-2006 1008.65 1010 1030 985.1 993.75 989.95 1013.83 102589 1040.07 BEL EQ 18-Jan-2006 989.95 984 1006.8 963.6 1002.15 999.45 990.75 94266 933.9413 When I have a few thousand rows like this, this becomes difficult to read, so I tend to a) M-x org-mode b) C-x h followed by C-c | This makes it easier to read as you can see below | BEL | EQ | 02-Jan-2006 | 993.15 | 998 | 1001 | 983 |.. | BEL | EQ | 03-Jan-2006 | 989.05 | 999.5 | 1000 | 989.9 |.. | BEL | EQ | 04-Jan-2006 | 994.35 | 998 | 1014 | 986.15 |.. How do I use the overlay for editing but keep the underlying file structure? If I do an C-C C-e, I get unnecessary headers and the fields are tabbed out and I have to save it as a different file. Ideally, I'd like to keep the file structure as it is and just use org-mode to provide viewing structure while editing. sivaram --
Hi Sivaram,
Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net@gmail.com> writes:
> This makes it easier to read as you can see below
> | BEL | EQ | 02-Jan-2006 | 993.15 | 998 | 1001 | 983 |..
> | BEL | EQ | 03-Jan-2006 | 989.05 | 999.5 | 1000 | 989.9 |..
> | BEL | EQ | 04-Jan-2006 | 994.35 | 998 | 1014 | 986.15 |..
>
> How do I use the overlay for editing but keep the underlying file
> structure?
I can see a solution where you could add an overlay to display the table
(say, with C-u C-c |, for example) but you won't be able to *edit*.
Would that be something you (and others) would find useful?
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Bastien
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1752 bytes --] On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote: > Hi Sivaram, > > Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net@gmail.com> writes: > > > This makes it easier to read as you can see below > > | BEL | EQ | 02-Jan-2006 | 993.15 | 998 | 1001 | 983 |.. > > | BEL | EQ | 03-Jan-2006 | 989.05 | 999.5 | 1000 | 989.9 |.. > > | BEL | EQ | 04-Jan-2006 | 994.35 | 998 | 1014 | 986.15 |.. > > > > How do I use the overlay for editing but keep the underlying file > > structure? > > I can see a solution where you could add an overlay to display the table > (say, with C-u C-c |, for example) but you won't be able to *edit*. > > Would that be something you (and others) would find useful? > Definitely useful - a read-only viewer of delimited files, would be a useful feature (and sometimes safer then an editor) which I would use regularly. But a really nice feature would be to be able to open a delimited file as a table, then being able to edit it using all the usual org features for tables, and being able to export the table to the delimited format again, while at the same time being able to save the org file. So there would be two aspects: 1) import delimited file into org-table 2) export of table into delimited format Both in itself would be very useful, but together they would be brilliant. Rainer > -- > Bastien > > -- Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany) Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology Stellenbosch University South Africa Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44 Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98 Fax (F): +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44 Fax (D): +49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44 email: Rainer@krugs.de Skype: RMkrug [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2631 bytes --]
On Fri, Jul 08 2011,Bastien wrote:
> Hi Sivaram,
>
> Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> This makes it easier to read as you can see below
>> | BEL | EQ | 02-Jan-2006 | 993.15 | 998 | 1001 | 983 |..
>> | BEL | EQ | 03-Jan-2006 | 989.05 | 999.5 | 1000 | 989.9 |..
>> | BEL | EQ | 04-Jan-2006 | 994.35 | 998 | 1014 | 986.15 |..
>>
>> How do I use the overlay for editing but keep the underlying file
>> structure?
>
> I can see a solution where you could add an overlay to display the table
> (say, with C-u C-c |, for example) but you won't be able to *edit*.
Right, I'm able to read the file as a table using C-C |, though it
ends up as a changed buffer. For simple viewing, I really do not mind
the current set up that just modifies the buffer I.e C-c| is good
enough(an option to open read-only would be nice).
However, it's the ability to use the overlay to edit and save it back
in the same format as in the original file is what I was looking for.
sivaram
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On Fri, Jul 08 2011,Rainer M Krug Rainer M Krug wrote:
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> Definitely useful - a read-only viewer of delimited files, would be a
> useful feature (and sometimes safer then an editor) which I would use
> regularly.
>
> But a really nice feature would be to be able to open a delimited file as a
> table, then being able to edit it using all the usual org features for
> tables, and being able to export the table to the delimited format again,
> while at the same time being able to save the org file. So there would be
> two aspects:
>
> 1) import delimited file into org-table
> 2) export of table into delimited format
>
> Both in itself would be very useful, but together they would be brilliant.
Exactly! And auto-{number/name}ing of the columns when importing would
also be nice.
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sivaram
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