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From: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Not merging org-lparse, org-xhtml & org-odt to the core
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:56:33 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <81zkizz2vq.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <814o171fb0.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:12:11 +0530")

Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:

>> It does seem that you are, for now, letting them be within org-mode
>> (your other mail). But it would still help if you express your
>> apprehensions and discuss them openly on this list.

1. I had a test.org file that I had created for testing the
   exporter. Now this file was simply thrown away because it seemed it
   was inappropriate to him.

   Any caring maintainer would not throw away a fruits of labour without
   a moment's reflection. Even if he felt that the test.org is in the
   wrong place, he could always SAVE it in whatever suitable place he
   deems fit.

2. Look at another interaction where is showing his total lack of
   awareness of how software development happens. He ignores my
   suggestion and tops it up with a tangential reply. To add more
   amusement to the whole thing, the changes were non-backward
   compatible and broke Orgmode Homepage.

   This particular amuses me because I have taken enormous pains to
   maintain backward compatibility in org-xhtml.el changes.



,---- See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2011-07/msg01294.html
| > ps: I would desire that any changes to org-html.el also need to be
| > ported to org-lparse.el and (or) org-xhtml.el.
| 
| (Can you take charge of this?)
| 
| This is the main reason why having duplicate code in this area is a
| burden.
| 
| I still think our energy will be better spent by progressively adding
| things from org-xhtml.el to org-html.el, feature by feature.  This is a
| lot of (possibly boring) work, but being lazy now will just make it even
| more difficult later.
| 
| In any case, working on porting changes from org-html.el to org-xhtml.el
| isn't the right direction.
| 
| Let's keep up the good work!
`----

3. I have a body of work queued up for review and he picks up a variable
   name and comments on it.

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2011-08/msg00735.html

   I am a professional programmer of 10+ years and in my experience only
   fresh college graduates pick up the way the variables are named and
   subject it to serious scrutiny.

4. Sometimes I resent when he indulgently comments on Nicolas Goazious
   commits.

5. Has anyone noticed this: He commiting a fix and reverting it or he
   immediately re-fixing a just committed stuff. No this doesn't happen
   once in a blue moon.

Nothing I list is a serious error. But put everything together, I get a
picture of a person who is holding the maintainership and falling
seriously short of the role he is expected to play.

There is a limit to person's patience. I am pouring all out because he
called me "frustrated". Honesly who in his right mind would dare call a
serious and committed contributor as "frustrated".

I hope after all these discussions he understands once and for all that
Lennart Borgman has ZERO code in all the three files org-xhtml.el,
org-lparse.el and org-odt.el.

I hope he brings some insight in to review process.

Jambunathan K.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-24  7:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-22  2:12 Not merging org-lparse, org-xhtml & org-odt to the core Jambunathan K
2011-08-22  7:14 ` Vikas Rawal
2011-08-22  7:48 ` Detlef Steuer
2011-08-22 12:23   ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-08-23 23:46     ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24  7:44       ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-08-24  8:40         ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 16:50           ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-08-24 10:10       ` Bastien
2011-08-24 10:50         ` Jambunathan K
     [not found]           ` <CAN_Dec_=WKB+ZxoP3bwPRexaFQnptV6rha8iQi+O=V61Frj3Zw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-08-25 14:45             ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-26  1:34               ` Matthew Sauer
2011-08-24 10:55       ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-24 11:23         ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 11:38         ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 12:04         ` Jambunathan K
     [not found]           ` <87obzesvb7.fsf@gnu.org>
2011-08-25  2:12             ` My apprehensions listed (Re: Not merging org-lparse, org-xhtml & org-odt to the core) Jambunathan K
2011-08-25  2:39               ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-25  7:42                 ` Bastien
2011-08-25  7:21               ` Bastien
     [not found]               ` <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
2011-08-25  5:18                 ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-25  3:33                 ` How to include comments on export? org-exp-blocks.el? Nick Dokos
2011-10-25  4:32                   ` Jambunathan K
2011-10-27 16:28                 ` OT: collage of scripts [was: Re: table alignment failed for Asian characters] Nick Dokos
2011-10-28  6:41                   ` Jambunathan K
2011-10-30 17:48                   ` OT: collage of scripts Thomas S. Dye
2011-11-03 18:18                 ` custom IDs not exported Nick Dokos
2011-11-03 18:40                   ` Jambunathan K
2011-11-04  8:41                   ` Sten Lindner
2011-11-04 15:00                     ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-03 18:44                 ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-04  7:11                   ` [OT] FSF, GPL, cedit case (was: custom IDs not exported) Reiner Steib
2011-08-24 14:48         ` Not merging org-lparse, org-xhtml & org-odt to the core Nick Dokos
2011-08-24 23:26           ` Vikas Rawal
2011-08-24 17:30         ` Allen S. Rout
2011-08-24 18:50           ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-24 19:30             ` Nick Dokos
2011-08-23 23:24   ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-22 18:09 ` Thomas Renkert
2011-08-23 23:49   ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24  2:44     ` Vikas Rawal
2011-08-24  6:42       ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24  7:26         ` Jambunathan K [this message]
2011-08-24 10:08           ` Bastien
2011-08-24 10:43             ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 10:48             ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 13:00             ` Christian Moe
2011-08-24 13:49               ` Stefan Vollmar
2011-08-24 14:10               ` Matt Price
2011-08-24 14:22             ` Rasmus
2011-08-24  9:59         ` Bastien
2011-08-24 10:56           ` Jambunathan K
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-10-27 11:33 table alignment failed for Asian characters Torsten Wagner
2011-10-27 11:55 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-10-27 13:26   ` Torsten Wagner
2011-10-27 13:46     ` Carsten Dominik
2011-10-27 14:00     ` Giovanni Ridolfi
2011-10-27 14:02       ` Carsten Dominik
2011-10-27 14:36         ` Jambunathan K
2011-10-24 21:30 How to include comments on export? org-exp-blocks.el? Herbert Sitz
2011-10-24 22:20 ` Herbert Sitz
2011-10-24 22:52   ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-25  2:43     ` Jambunathan K
2011-10-25  1:57 ` Jambunathan K
2011-10-28 22:31   ` [odt] Support for annotations/comments Jambunathan K
2011-10-29  0:20     ` Herbert Sitz
2011-10-29 10:58     ` Bastien
2011-10-29 14:54     ` Torsten Wagner
2012-01-21  5:53 ` How to include comments on export? org-exp-blocks.el? Samuel Wales
2012-01-23 18:01   ` Eric Schulte
2011-06-11 22:42 custom IDs not exported Daniel Clemente
2011-06-12  3:12 ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-13 10:04   ` Daniel Clemente
2011-06-13 13:16     ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-16 21:31   ` Daniel Clemente
2011-06-16 21:40     ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-16 22:25       ` Daniel Clemente
2011-06-16 22:47         ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-30 16:18           ` Bastien
2011-11-01 17:01   ` Sten Lindner
2011-11-02  5:33     ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-03  1:34       ` Bastien
2011-11-03 14:54         ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-03 17:08           ` Jambunathan K

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