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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Vollmar <vollmar@nf.mpg.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: MACRO calls with linebreaks?
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:02:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <81647743-5305-4BE8-B2AC-B7EEFEF36D67@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F2FD7898-2938-43E7-B605-380A21C095D5@nf.mpg.de>

Hi Stefan,

could you please make a complete example, with the complete macro
definition and calls, i.e. no ...?  This would give me something
to test without having to guess what might be happening.

Thanks.

- Carsten


On Aug 11, 2009, at 12:58 AM, Stefan Vollmar wrote:

> Dear Carsten,
>
> On 10.08.2009, at 10:09, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
>> this should now work.
>>
>> But note that the opening parenthesis must be attached to the macro  
>> name and the closing parenthesis must be attached to the "}}}",  
>> just as you have done in your proposal.
>>
>> I have not tested this, please verify.
>
> thank you!
>
> Almost perfect: there seems to be some confusion as to when MACRO  
> arguments are passed verbatim and when interpreted in org-fashion.  
> Ideally, there should be a way to make sure that one gets verbatim  
> text, possibly without leading white space.
>
> (1)
>
> {{{person(minerva_logo.png,
> ...)}}}
>
> and
>
> {{{person(
> minerva_logo.png,
> ...)}}}
>
> differ. The first version passes "minerva_log.png" as the first  
> argument to the MACRO, the second version turns it into  
> "minerva<sub>logo</sub>.png".
>
> (2)
>
> {{{person(minerva_logo.png, somebody.jpg,
> line1 <br/> line2 <br/> line3 <br/>,
> somebody@nf.mpg.de
> )}}}
>
> works fine, however,
>
> {{{person(minerva_logo.png, somebody.jpg,
> line1 <br/>
> line2 <br/>
> line3 <br/>,
> somebody@nf.mpg.de
> )}}}
>
> creates "line1" folled by a line break (as expected) but all  
> following HTML code rendered as text:
> line1 <br/> line2 &lt;br/&gt; line3 &lt;br/&gt;&lt; [...]
>
> (3)
>
> {{{person(minerva_logo.png, somebody.jpg,
> line1 <br/>
> line2 @<br/>
> line3 @<br/>,
> somebody@nf.mpg.de
> )}}}
>
> this works (observe the inconsistency between line1 and the other  
> lines: no "@" here) up to and including line 3, the rest is HTML  
> markup rendered as text just as in (2).
>
> Warm regards,
> Stefan
>
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>> On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:40 AM, Stefan Vollmar wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I find org-mode's MACRO feature very useful for exporting to HTML  
>>> as it allows you to generate literally any HTML construct that you  
>>> need, here is a simple example: http://www.nf.mpg.de/kinderuni/kinderuni_en.html 
>>>  (see the "Colophon" section; thanks again to everybody from the  
>>> list who helped!).
>>>
>>> For another project, we need to generate a table with many (multi- 
>>> line) rows like this:
>>>
>>> | logo.png | somebody.jpg | name \\ telephone \\ email... |
>>>
>>> The images have different sizes (so some alignment is needed) and  
>>> the text in the last column should have several lines (which  
>>> should be next to the person's portrait). This can (currently) not  
>>> been done with standard org tables (I am not complaining).
>>>
>>> With something like this:
>>>
>>> #+macro: person #+HTML: <table><tr><td style="vertical- 
>>> align:middle;margin-right:2em;margin-left:2em;padding:5px;">[...]</ 
>>> table>
>>>
>>> {{{person(logo.png, somebody.jpg, somebody@nf.mpg.de, name<br/ 
>>> >telephone<br/>room<br/>group<br/>[...])}}}
>>>
>>> the problem can be solved and yet again org-mode's flexibility is  
>>> demonstrated.
>>>
>>> The MACRO can be hidden in a setup-file. However, the MACRO call  
>>> can not and it looks like a kludge and is awkward to read. MACRO  
>>> calls work well with few and short arguments - different from this  
>>> case. The problem is that org-mode seems to require the brackets  
>>> in one line for MACROs to work. Assuming this restriction was not  
>>> there, one could write in a much more readable fashion:
>>>
>>> {{{person(
>>> logo.png, somebody.jpg,
>>> somebody@nf.mpg.de,
>>> name<br/>
>>> telephone<br/>
>>> room<br/>
>>> group<br/>
>>> [...]
>>> )}}}
>>>
>>> and (just a thought) might expect white space in front of an  
>>> argument to be ignored and linebreaks in arguments conserved.  
>>> Maybe there is a better way to pass longer arguments to MACROs?
>>>
>>> Any help is appreciated.
>>> Warm regards,
>>> Stefan
>
> -- 
> Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys.
> Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-11  9:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-09  0:40 MACRO calls with linebreaks? Stefan Vollmar
2009-08-10  8:09 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-08-10 22:58   ` Stefan Vollmar
2009-08-11  9:02     ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2009-08-11 13:30     ` Carsten Dominik

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