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Hyperbole only uses perma-hyperlink an= chors in its Koutliner format. But it would be straightforward to add a UUI= D-type id for use elsewhere. >=20 > - bidirectional [link a goes to link b; link b goes to link a], or, > reversible via command to say "what links here?" [by any mechanism. > if desired, please see "id markers" concept on this list for > unbreakable bidirectional links and more stuff] Hyperbole does not have bi-directional links, only a history function to mov= e back through followed node paths. We have started thinking about this nee= d recently. =E2=80=94 rsw=