From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jambunathan K Subject: Re: Version string (was Re: ELPA Howto) Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2010 10:57:30 +0530 Message-ID: <8139sgx7el.fsf@gmail.com> References: <81pqvvofgz.fsf@gmail.com> <814od06gls.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <13824DEB-A43A-4E87-A5DD-84C5965C713C@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47460 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P4RyE-0007Z3-0g for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Oct 2010 01:27:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P4RyC-0001OG-00 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Oct 2010 01:27:45 -0400 Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com ([209.85.210.41]:42213) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P4RyB-0001O3-HM for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Oct 2010 01:27:43 -0400 Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7so43075pzk.0 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 22:27:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Carsten Dominik's message of "Fri, 8 Oct 2010 13:45:43 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Attaching the response from Chong Yidong to my queries. Read down below. Jambunathan K. Carsten Dominik writes: > Hi, > > so how do we move forward with generating packages? I have installed > the code by Jambunthan in the Make file, but I guess we still need to > negotiate with the EPLA on how to upload and update the package, about > name conventions etc. > > Is there anyone whole is willing to sort this all out and then show us > the simple upload recipe? > > My feeling is that the latest release should be on the package server. > daily bleeding edge builds could be there as well, under a different > name. > /* Begin Attachment */ From: Chong Yidong Subject: Re: Packages + elpa.gnu.org To: Jambunathan K Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 23:55:52 -0400 Message-ID: <87y6a86muv.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Jambunathan K writes: > 1. Who acts as a janitor for the elpa repository. Me. Ted Zlatanov also has access. We've both been pretty busy on other parts of Emacs lately, though, so there are a couple of packages that are in the pipeline for uploading (including AuCTEX). > 2. How does one upload packages - a mail drop to the maintainer, remote > update from within emacs - scp, ftp etc etc . (Is package-x.el's > package-upload-buffer and related configuration documented > somewhere.) Probably the easiest way to set this up is for someone on the org-mode team to upload the dailies to a server somewhere on the web, giving the tarball a deterministic name. Then, someone (probably me) will have to set up a cron job on elpa.gnu.org to check for that tarball each day, download it, and run `package-upload-file' to add it to the repository. > 3. Does the package manager expect that builtin packages be versioned in > a special way. For example, can the stable release be called 7.0.1 > while a daily snapshot be called 20101008? The package manager uses the most recent version of a package, as defined by `version-list-<'. > 4. Any general guidelines on what packages would be accepted there and > how often an update can happen. Are daily snapshots allowed. The main requirement is for package copyrights to be FSF assigned. I think providing dailies is fine. /* End Attachment */ > Thanks > > - Carsten > > > On Oct 8, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote: > >> >> On Oct 5, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Jambunathan K wrote: >> >>> >>> In the context of ELPA packages, I think there might be a need to >>> revisit how orgmode's version string is defined. >>> >>> For example, 7.01h wouldn't be successfully parsed by (version-to- >>> list >>> ...) which the package manager uses internally. >>> >>> So 7.01h could be mapped to 7.0.1.8 or 7.1.8. >> >> >> Hi Jambunthan, >> >> in what places would the version string have to be modified? >> Do I need to change the org.el variable org-version, or the string >> in the VERSION keyword in file headers, or where? >> >> - Carsten >> >>> >>> ,----[ C-h f version-to-list RET ] >>> | version-to-list is a compiled Lisp function in `subr.el'. >>> | >>> | (version-to-list VER) >>> | >>> | Convert version string VER into an integer list. >>> | >>> | The version syntax is given by the following EBNF: >>> | >>> | VERSION ::= NUMBER ( SEPARATOR NUMBER )*. >>> | >>> | NUMBER ::= (0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)+. >>> | >>> | SEPARATOR ::= `version-separator' (which see) >>> | | `version-regexp-alist' (which see). >>> | >>> | The NUMBER part is optional if SEPARATOR is a match for an element >>> | in `version-regexp-alist'. >>> | >>> | As an example of valid version syntax: >>> | >>> | 1.0pre2 1.0.7.5 22.8beta3 0.9alpha1 6.9.30Beta >>> | >>> | As an example of invalid version syntax: >>> | >>> | 1.0prepre2 1.0..7.5 22.8X3 alpha3.2 .5 >>> | >>> | As an example of version convertion: >>> | >>> | String Version Integer List Version >>> | "1.0.7.5" (1 0 7 5) >>> | "1.0pre2" (1 0 -1 2) >>> | "1.0PRE2" (1 0 -1 2) >>> | "22.8beta3" (22 8 -2 3) >>> | "22.8Beta3" (22 8 -2 3) >>> | "0.9alpha1" (0 9 -3 1) >>> | "0.9AlphA1" (0 9 -3 1) >>> | "0.9alpha" (0 9 -3) >>> | >>> | See documentation for `version-separator' and `version-regexp- >>> alist'. >>> | >>> | [back] >>> `---- >>> >>> Jambunathan K. >> >> - Carsten >> >> >> > > - Carsten