From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Sebastien Vauban" Subject: Re: From latest maint/master, no need to (require 'org-install) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 08:44:49 +0200 Message-ID: <80ehl8jg9q.fsf@somewhere.org> References: <87boglvwur.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87sj9vj4a1.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87zk43419r.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <80ipap2tx9.fsf@somewhere.org> <87y5jjt550.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87y5jibteg.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Hi Achim, Achim Gratz wrote: > Eric Fraga writes: >> My question now is whether I should replace the =(require 'org)= by >> =(require 'org-loaddefs)= which seems to be the way that Emacs is moving >> for packages? > > No. The definitions in org-loaddefs are require'd from org internally, you > should never reference to it directly. What Emacs and package managers are > doing is not exactly the same thing, but again they should setup things in a > way that only =(require 'org)= is needed. You mean we must require Org in our .emacs file (instead of just loading the autoload definitions)? IIUC, (in my case at least) that could seriously impact the Emacs startup time? Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban