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I am >> aware that it may give false positives, but I still believe they should >> be added. > > I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're saying. My bad. "org-go" is completed to "org--goto" while "org-goto-" is not offered. The latter might be a variant because "org-goto" is registered as an autoload prefix. Ihor kindly created https://debbugs.gnu.org/60085 "`help-enable-autoload' is not fully obeyed", so it is better to discuss it there. >> Though I believe that org mixed version issue happens due to transitional >> dependency of some third party package on org or something like (require >> 'org-protocol) that can not be loaded on demand. > > Hmm... indeed the "Subject:" talks about mixed versions, yet I was > discussing something not directly related. Looks like I got off-topic > somewhere along the way without noticing, sorry. I have impression that there is no recipe how to reproduce this bug yet, just reports that people have faced it. So aspects of autoload may be considered as a part of brainstorm. Other ideas when built-in Org version may be loaded too early: - restoring previous session. - user configured Org agenda as startup buffer. Can it happen that already loaded version affects compilation of a new version by package-install.