From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Alan E. Davis" Subject: Re: Re: RSI Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 11:34:57 +0000 Message-ID: <7bef1f890909070434u757b27b9he5c6301607d20328@mail.gmail.com> References: <20524da70909011111p2d990274l89722cae104b9722@mail.gmail.com> <87iqg2h2bz.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87my57gk5e.wl%ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1930910733==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkcVJ-0007yv-2U for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:35:25 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkcVE-0007sx-2x for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:35:24 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40200 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkcVD-0007sf-TK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:35:19 -0400 Received: from mail-iw0-f195.google.com ([209.85.223.195]:37651) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MkcVD-0006AI-9p for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:35:19 -0400 Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so842432iwn.24 for ; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 04:35:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87my57gk5e.wl%ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk Cc: Matt Lundin , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --===============1930910733== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151774123e75d01b0472fb3e18 --00151774123e75d01b0472fb3e18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My 2 cents' worth. In the 80's I learned to use word star with an XT keyboard, with function keys down the left side and Ctl and Shift or Caps Lock opposite from the AT keyboard. I felt at the time, the AT keyboard was a step backwards. Just this year, I tried to find an XT keyboard, style but wasn't able to locate one. I'd swap Caps Lock with Ctrl on my own keyboards, except I have three or four computers I use routinely, including a laptop, and it would just be more aggravation. Any how, I wondered if the XT style keyboard would work well with emacs, and how or whether this would affect this RSI issue. Alan You can know the name of a bird in all the languages of the world, but when you're finished, you'll know absolutely nothing whatever about the bird... So let's look at the bird and see what it's doing---that's what counts. ----Richard Feynman On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: > At Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:50:08 -0400, > Matt Lundin wrote: > > key. Thus, short of using viper, the only solution that works for me is > > to use the Caps Lock key as Control. With that slight modification, I > > find emacs controls *very* comfortable (perhaps even as comfortable than > > Yes, making caps lock act as control is key to using emacs without > pain (for me). However, it's not a full solution for some keyboards > which don't have a caps lock key. Therefore, I'm intrigued by your > reference to viper: is it possible to use, constructively and easily, > viper with org-mode? If so, any pointers on how to accomplish this > would be fantastic! A modal approach to writing/editing is fine with > me. > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > --00151774123e75d01b0472fb3e18 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My 2 cents' worth.=A0

In the 80's I learned to use word sta= r with an XT keyboard, with function keys down the left side and Ctl and Sh= ift or Caps Lock opposite from the AT keyboard.=A0 I felt at the time, the = AT keyboard was a step backwards.=A0

Just this year, I tried to find an XT keyboard, style but wasn't ab= le to locate one.=A0 I'd swap Caps Lock with Ctrl on my own keyboards, = except I have three or four computers I use routinely, including a laptop, = and it would just be more aggravation.

Any how, I wondered if the XT style keyboard would work well with emacs= , and how or whether this would affect this RSI issue.


Alan=A0

You can know the name of a bird in all the languages o= f the world, =A0but when you're finished, you'll know absolutely no= thing whatever about the bird... So let's look at the bird and see what= it's doing---that's what counts.

=A0 =A0----Richard Feynman
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0


On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Eric S F= raga <ucecesf@ucl= .ac.uk> wrote:
At Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:50:08 -0400,
Matt Lundin wrote:
> key. Thus, short of using viper, the only solution that works for me i= s
> to use the Caps Lock key as Control. With that slight modification, I<= br> > find emacs controls *very* comfortable (perhaps even as comfortable th= an

Yes, making caps lock act as control is key to using emacs without pain (for me). =A0However, it's not a full solution for some keyboards<= br> which don't have a caps lock key. =A0Therefore, I'm intrigued by yo= ur
reference to viper: is it possible to use, constructively and easily,
viper with org-mode? =A0If so, any pointers on how to accomplish this
would be fantastic! =A0A modal approach to writing/editing is fine with
me.


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