From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Goerzen Subject: Re: *Good* client for Android? Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 18:02:46 -0500 Message-ID: <7437ae6e-63d4-96bd-f2b0-6ccc727e3600@complete.org> References: <4916869e-5f2d-479c-b4a6-864d771be3c9@complete.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D142A2E242C152A36F9409A5" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45868) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e2mVD-0005Ki-I7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2017 19:02:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e2mVA-0008Pw-Dr for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2017 19:02:55 -0400 Received: from glockenspiel.complete.org ([142.4.200.132]:37238) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e2mVA-0008Pa-6N for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2017 19:02:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Martin Alsinet , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D142A2E242C152A36F9409A5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Martin, Unfortunately, I am talking just a phone, so I don't think I'd find that especially practical. John On 10/12/2017 06:01 PM, Martin Alsinet wrote: > Hello John: > > If your phone screen is big enough, you could use termux > + > emacs + git & git-remote-gcrypt. > With that you could use the same stack on Android as on your laptop. > > Termux is a linux console for Android that lets you install packages > with something similar to apt-get in debian/ubuntu. > I am thinking about getting a cheap Android tablet myself in order to > have a ultra light mobile workstation with termux. > On the other hand, a terminal console on a 5 inch phone screen doesn't > seem to be very practical for prolonged work. > > > Martin > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 4:32 PM John Goerzen > wrote: > > Hi folks, > > All along, I anticipated using this with Android (and, ideally, also > iOS). The MobileOrg feature set looked great, and the syncing > mechanism > looked a lot better than sharing Dropbox. > > I use git to share my ~/org between two computers (laptop and > desktop), > using git-remote-gcrypt to store on a server. This makes syncing and > resolving conflicts easy (I move between the two throughout the > day, so > Dropbox is really not a great option here.) Sync integrity -- or at > least robust detection of conflicts -- is a must. Encryption is a > "very > nice to have." > > Suggestions? > > Here's what I've found so far: > > MobileOrg - supports WebDAV storage. Has a robust sync system, > integrated with org-mode, in which it seems to be able to write > out its > changes to a separate file that the computer can integrate. Sounds > smart, though I suspect it will require additional hacking to support > multiple Android devices. org-mode docs mention encryption for this, > but the encryption is not supported by MobileOrg. Also, MobileOrg was > last updated 4 years ago and seems to have bitrotted. > > Orgzly - Supports only Dropbox or local-on-Android storage. The latter > is insecure, as it permits any app on the system to read the files. I > am really not sure how to integrate this with my workflow. It seems > like potentials for conflicts are extremely high. > > SyncOrg - Shows some promise, but couldn't even test locally due > to the > folder selection screen not working for the "External/Local Only." > Suspect it's trying to do something insecure as well, or doesn't > work on > Oreo? ssh support seems to actually be ssh+git, which is nice - > except > that it's unencrypted. doh. The documentation made no mention of > resolving conflicts. https://github.com/wizmer/syncorg/wiki/FAQ seems > to suggest it uses the old MobileOrg push/pull in org-mode, but I > can't > see how that possibly works well with Git. I suspect that FAQ to be > totally obsolete, because it also talks about a Dropbox synchronizer > that SyncOrg doesn't even have. I could use this if I drop > git-remote-gcrypt, I hope. > > MobileOrg-NG - Last updated in 2012. Didn't really look past that. > > > --------------D142A2E242C152A36F9409A5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Martin,

Unfortunately, I am talking just a phone, so I don't think I'd find that especially practical.

John

On 10/12/2017 06:01 PM, Martin Alsinet wrote:
Hello John:

If your phone screen is big enough, you could use termux + emacs + git & git-remote-gcrypt.
With that you could use the same stack on Android as on your laptop.

Termux is a linux console for Android that lets you install packages with something similar to apt-get in debian/ubuntu.
I am thinking about getting a cheap Android tablet myself in order to have a ultra light mobile workstation with termux.
On the other hand, a terminal console on a 5 inch phone screen doesn't seem to be very practical for prolonged work.


Martin

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 4:32 PM John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> wrote:
Hi folks,

All along, I anticipated using this with Android (and, ideally, also
iOS).  The MobileOrg feature set looked great, and the syncing mechanism
looked a lot better than sharing Dropbox.

I use git to share my ~/org between two computers (laptop and desktop),
using git-remote-gcrypt to store on a server.  This makes syncing and
resolving conflicts easy (I move between the two throughout the day, so
Dropbox is really not a great option here.)  Sync integrity -- or at
least robust detection of conflicts -- is a must.  Encryption is a "very
nice to have."

Suggestions?

Here's what I've found so far:

MobileOrg - supports WebDAV storage.  Has a robust sync system,
integrated with org-mode, in which it seems to be able to write out its
changes to a separate file that the computer can integrate.  Sounds
smart, though I suspect it will require additional hacking to support
multiple Android devices.  org-mode docs mention encryption for this,
but the encryption is not supported by MobileOrg.  Also, MobileOrg was
last updated 4 years ago and seems to have bitrotted.

Orgzly - Supports only Dropbox or local-on-Android storage. The latter
is insecure, as it permits any app on the system to read the files.  I
am really not sure how to integrate this with my workflow.  It seems
like potentials for conflicts are extremely high.

SyncOrg - Shows some promise, but couldn't even test locally due to the
folder selection screen not working for the "External/Local Only."
Suspect it's trying to do something insecure as well, or doesn't work on
Oreo?  ssh support seems to actually be ssh+git, which is nice - except
that it's unencrypted.  doh.  The documentation made no mention of
resolving conflicts.  https://github.com/wizmer/syncorg/wiki/FAQ seems
to suggest it uses the old MobileOrg push/pull in org-mode, but I can't
see how that possibly works well with Git.  I suspect that FAQ to be
totally obsolete, because it also talks about a Dropbox synchronizer
that SyncOrg doesn't even have.  I could use this if I drop
git-remote-gcrypt, I hope.

MobileOrg-NG - Last updated in 2012.  Didn't really look past that.




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