From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: converting people to Emacs and org-mode Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:51:02 +0200 Message-ID: <7401FF63-B5F4-46AF-BD35-9717130FADBB@gmail.com> References: <87ip3wjdlw.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48869) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UPUGl-0004jJ-A8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 04:51:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UPUGg-0001gN-Cd for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 04:51:11 -0400 Received: from ezel.ic.uva.nl ([146.50.108.158]:37879) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UPUGg-0001gI-4p for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 04:51:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87ip3wjdlw.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Thorsten Jolitz Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On 9 apr. 2013, at 10:46, Thorsten Jolitz wrote: > 42 147 writes: >=20 >> This might be considered off-topic. >=20 > Maybe not? I know of a fantastic Lisp dialect and > web/database programming-environment out there=20 >=20 > ,------------------------------------ > | PicoLisp > | http://picolisp.com/5000/!wiki?home > `------------------------------------ >=20 > that suffers exactly from the rather low conversion rate of people to > it, which is kind of hard to explain given its quality.=20 >=20 > But maybe Paul Graham is right in > http://www.paulgraham.com/popular.html, at least with regards to > programming languages: >=20 > = ,-------------------------------------------------------------------------= > | A friend of mine once told an eminent operating systems expert that = he > | wanted to design a really good programming language. The expert told = him > | that it would be a waste of time, that programming languages don't > | become popular or unpopular based on their merits, and so no matter = how > | good his language was, no one would use it. At least, that was what = had > | happened to the language he had designed. > = `-------------------------------------------------------------------------= >=20 > And just like I try to spell the word about amazing PicoLisp with this > email, I wrote an Org-mode article in the student magazine of my = former > German distance university with the title >=20 > ,------------------------------------------------------ > | Self-organization with Org-mode for distance students > `------------------------------------------------------ I would be interested to read this article. Can you make it available? - Carsten >=20 > (in German) >=20 > Its in=20 >=20 > ,------------------------------------------- > | "SprachRohr"-Ausgabe 04/2012 FernUni Hagen > `------------------------------------------- >=20 > and the cover can be seen here:=20 > http://www.fernstudis.de/node/1203 >=20 > unfortunately only the cover, since download is restricted to > immatriculated students, but I reached some 50-60k readers with this > article and recieved very positive feedback, I cite from an anonymous > fellow distance student: >=20 > = ,-------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > | [...] ich geh=F6re normalerweise nicht zu den Leserbriefschreibern, = aber hier > | muss ich einfach mal ein ganz gro=DFes Lob loswerden: Vielen Dank = f=FCr den > | Artikel =FCber Emacs Org-Mode - der erste Artikel [...] der mich = wirklich > | weiterbringt und ganz sehr zum "Weiterforschen" anregt. Org-Mode = scheint > | genau das Werkzeug zu sein, nach dem ich lange gesucht habe. > = `-------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- >=20 > (in English more or less: "normally I don't write reader comments, but > Org-mode seems exactly the tool I was looking for and I feel very > motivated to learn more about it after reading your article") >=20 > So maybe there are ways to reach more people with less effort than in > one-to-one conversion talks? Although, even with 50k readers, I will = of > course never know if I really achieved a single conversion.=20 >=20 > --=20 > cheers, > Thorsten >=20 >=20