Re: How to add entries to an org file, not diary

From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <darcamo@gmail.com>
Cc: Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca>, Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>,
	Stephen Eglen <S.J.Eglen@damtp.cam.ac.uk>,
	Org Mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: How to add entries to an org file, not diary
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:23:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7273B1D9-994D-410A-B26A-EFE3436FD1C7@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4af8c885.1608c00a.50e5.0a86@mx.google.com>

On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:57 AM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira wrote:

>
> This is really nice.
> Thanks Carsten!
>
> I currently use a subtree in my main org file to put dates for
> appointments, birthdays, etc.. Having a native way to do that will
> save time and I my approach could became to cluttered in the future.
>
> I only miss an easy way to change the date of an appointment, for
> example. The usual refiling is not very efficient here, since the
> diary file will have a lot of headings and one may need to refile it
> to a heading that doesn't exist yet. Maybe org-refile could test if
> this is the diary file and if it is, offer an interface similar to the
> usual time stamp insertion.

Hi Darlan,

the simple answer is:  Don't be religious about where
in the date three the entry is located.  Placing all these
entries into a tree is a convenience, but it has no significance
for the interpretation of the entries when the agenda is constructed.
Each entry still contains a time stamp, and changing the appointment
rescheduling means that this time stamp is changed.
The entry will still be located under the day where it initially
belonged, but so what?

The longer answer would be to write a function that cleans up
the tree and moves all entries to the right date.  Not too hard
to write.  In fact, I have just added it:

M-x org-datetree-cleanup RET

If your date tree is part of a larger buffer,
you might want to narrow the buffer to the date tree
before running this command.

- Carsten

>
> But this is something minor.
> Again, thanks for this and org-mode.
>
>
> At Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:09:23 +0100,
> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Stephen,
>>
>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Stephen Eglen wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> If I'm visting an agenda (C-c a a) buffer, and want to add a diary
>>> entry
>>> for a particular day, I can use org-agenda-diary-entry, bound to  
>>> 'i'.
>>> This inserts an entry in my diary file.
>>>
>>> What I'd like to do is add the entry instead to an org file,
>>> e.g. 'agenda.org' where I currently store all diary-like entries.   
>>> Is
>>> that functionality available?  (Am trying to wean myself off diary
>>> files, after many years of using it...)
>>
>> If you get the latest Org version from the git server, you can
>> configure the variable `org-agenda-diary-file' to point to your
>> "diary.org" file or any other Org-mode file.  This should be a
>> file dedicated for general appointments, anniversaries
>> etc.
>>
>> Then `i' in the agenda will create new entries in that file.
>> Simple entries (day and block) will be placed into an outline
>> tree that is based on dates:  Top-level years, level 2 months,
>> level 3 days[1].  I have always wanted to have something
>> like this, so that it will be easy to archive old stuff!  So thanks
>> for giving me a reason to finally make it.
>>
>> Right now I have implemented
>>
>> i d   for day entries,
>> i b   for blocks,
>> i a   for anniversaries (which will be collected under a special
>>       heading "Anniversaries" in your `diary.org'
>> i j   To jump to the cursor date in the date tree
>>
>> What else would be useful?
>>
>> The same command will also be bound to the `i' key in the
>> calendar (calendar restart required), so you can make the same
>> kind of entries from the calendar - very convenient at times,
>> in particular for long blocks.
>>
>> The basics of these new commands seem to work OK, but it
>> is quite possible that I have not yet thought this through
>> fully.  Let me know what I am missing, so that we can tweak it.
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>> [1] If there is any entry in this file with a DATE_TREE property set,
>> the tree will be build under that entry.
>>
>>
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- Carsten