From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id qAhXLwWnymOtaAEAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 15:36:53 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id 0ItHLwWnymMLfwAA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 15:36:53 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E2EF26758 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 15:36:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIsUO-0000FT-QP; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 09:35:33 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIsU1-0000Bm-6v for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 09:35:12 -0500 Received: from smtprelay06.ispgateway.de ([80.67.18.29]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIsTx-0000PA-Oc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 09:35:08 -0500 Received: from [46.244.205.250] (helo=condition-alpha.com) by smtprelay06.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1pIsTr-0008AD-Uj; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 15:35:00 +0100 Message-Id: <70da051717de670be36c26e43d0b66bf@condition-alpha.com> From: Alexander Adolf To: Ihor Radchenko , Tim Cross Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda In-Reply-To: <87o7qzewhc.fsf@localhost> References: <63c287ca.a70a0220.4bd14.873b@mx.google.com> <87pmbh1hgx.fsf@localhost> <63c2b8e4.a70a0220.e3b6d.0051@mx.google.com> <87edrxyyeq.fsf@localhost> <87bkn1yx59.fsf@localhost> <87lem582qw.fsf@localhost> <63c32848.620a0220.dec52.1f9c@mx.google.com> <87o7qzewhc.fsf@localhost> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 15:34:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Df-Sender: YWxleGFuZGVyLmFkb2xmQGNvbmRpdGlvbi1hbHBoYS5jb20= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=80.67.18.29; envelope-from=alexander.adolf@condition-alpha.com; helo=smtprelay06.ispgateway.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1674225413; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=dQw0PwZYfTTgw9LhLp2Omka3FuMj4rnuBh1J3ApAWJQ=; b=N/+Byus4WmNNO+DlbfBt5XUGdU0EzZzhRgdjtuarDNAvrSBkdWhZwkewMfVB8BBF2CeNR0 fbOr7THEusaVfyE8Uy0caS509icDK8tVDppWVoXPutN27BmSDQZaHpfwOFzx5C1x0cXDbs YI4EnBNPZpjozI9YE+Y3010o3jsNnCbLoGBnvyNb8FX46nuIak13wNZH1HEhkTGPwX6LJL dz/mmBsqmNLX7G/TEmekux31H3AXkuLbKT7trISVpPIz6SQqE7rm02BT2fL2bOIlH88x2t NCak0p2uzO+8/YO+BMre7Z7wK+3T6gVcGCeVL1CjPuxYy6ZnpdbVCswQK6UPRQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1674225413; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=c8qP8b23pJE4D37OylDqmak+u++YgIVFWDqP3QH374FpF9KLVwvR2fkx3NiM2pFBaJH2Uy +NZqLfxeEqeMGnL7iAeYPzaQEnF+BprgxzcjlVBVTS2YLf/cH/OCELgrtVt6V/wM3gcCPG 2rLFBypxxoY9YY3v0tGguLWIhREa8mpuvQWz2xB2UL25ehlt9A45fN54n+BFKMLRwJ/dJp CTEQ/Bvv2Yni3fkl939P5qJhZRB3zqfNwdPgJSt0mIojpGYK5/Xcs1NZOyZO/8i2t+LHZs YHEV+rHmQtGGr8/q+IwhXZavcczoO9F3ca2GIleQOUCEHjXpFa7V26rnz7t6xg== X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.41 X-Spam-Score: -1.41 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7E2EF26758 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-TUID: kBhRG1Nf9eSA Ihor Radchenko writes: > [...] > I don't imply that. What I am saying is that we first need to decide on > syntax and provide basic support for time zones. It will already be > helpful as I won't need to convert timestamps into local time or think > if I need to convert timestamps ahead of time before a flight to > different time zone. > > More things can be implemented once we have the basic support. > [...] > > Converting timestamps with time zone to local time is indeed one of the > basic features we need to support. > [...] I fully concur with Ihor.