From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Peter Davis Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] almost giving up on emacs email..looking for advice? Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 10:16:13 -0400 Message-ID: <6sw6c7oaidzz9u.fsf@dhcp-6-148.hmco.com> References: <87egjgyo09.fsf@gmail.com> <6sw6c7vbcmypwh.fsf@dhcp-6-148.hmco.com> <55C9FE6A.708@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53208) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPAM6-00058V-W1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 10:16:43 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPAM1-0004t0-1o for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 10:16:42 -0400 Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:48803) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPAM0-0004sk-Rf for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 10:16:36 -0400 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7694C226D4 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 10:16:36 -0400 (EDT) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Scott Randby writes: > On 08/11/2015 08:23 AM, Peter Davis wrote: >> >> 2) I need a decent editor for replies. I have not found a >> browser-based client that has this. > > For me, setting up any of the Emacs email clients to work properly > with my various email tasks is a daunting task. This especially true > for my work email account which is not a Gmail account. I simply don't > have the technical knowledge to get everything working, and I don't > have the time to acquire that technical knowledge. This has certainly been the case for me with gnus. I spent years (literally) playing with gnus and giving up, only to be drawn back to it weeks, months or years later to try again. Seriously, it was only after years of this that I managed to get things working well enough to actually use gnus, and even at that I only use it with IMAP. FWIW, I also used VM for a while (easier to configure, but much less powerful), MH-E, Wanderlust as well as non-Emacs clients (Sylpheed, mutt, Thunderbird, and others.) It's a crowded field. I generally liked some things about each of these, and disliked others. There's no perfect solution. One of the persistent frustrations for me with Thunderbird is that it still, even years after the problem was reported, can't get the unread counts correct for various folders all the time. It frequently shows unread counts for folders that have no unread messages, and vice versa. I get hundreds of messages a day, so I like to just be able to plow through them quickly, replying as needed, flagging some for later attention, etc. Mutt was actually the fastest for that, but I hate the way it displays HTML messages with w3m in dump mode. Mutt is also pretty challenging to configure, and that has to be re-created for each new machine. With gnus, I just copy my .gnus.el file over and, bam, done. -pd