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From: Daniel Martins <danielemc@gmail.com>
To: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Cc: Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>, Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Re: Organizing a students live
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:51:31 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6ac505ad0912261651v553e4701y8299e3cd0ad0fdb9@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0B9ABBC1-4CE1-4F14-B056-8BEBFCB5B0F0@gmail.com>

I liked the idea of org-diary-class!

About avoiding holidays and certain weeks:

I used remind and wyrd for a while  and they are a quite good software
for dealing with such appts.

There we have the OMIT function where we determine holidays and other
non-working days including Sat and Sundays


Normally we have an OMIT list at the beginning of file

 Some functions simply omit those dates

Other expressions use another keyword AFTER (or BEFORE)  to change
OMIT behaviour

like
23 Mar AFTER OMIT "Bank payment"

eg If 23 Mar is in Saturday it will appear in Monday

This preamble is just to say 2 things:

1) remind/wyrd could be used as a benchmark for some of the calendar
isuues we have

2) I do not know if the week number in a year is a practical way of
setting exceptions to org-diary-class

Daniel

PS Wyrd page is

http://pessimization.com/software/wyrd/




2009/12/26 Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> I think it is a good idea to add such a function to org-mode.  But I
> am not sure if skipping holidays is the best, because Universities
> also have lecture-free weeks etc.
>
> So I am more thinking about a function like this (untested)
>
> (defun org-diary-class (m1 d1 y1 m2 d2 y2 dayname &rest skip-weeks)
>  "Entry applies if date is between dates on DAYNAME, but skips SKIP-WEEKS.
> Order of the parameters is M1, D1, Y1, M2, D2, Y2 if
> `european-calendar-style' is nil, and D1, M1, Y1, D2, M2, Y2 if
> `european-calendar-style' is t.  The weeks are ISO week numbers where
> the item should not apply."
>  (let* ((date1 (calendar-absolute-from-gregorian
>                 (if european-calendar-style
>                     (list d1 m1 y1)
>                   (list m1 d1 y1))))
>         (date2 (calendar-absolute-from-gregorian
>                 (if european-calendar-style
>                     (list d2 m2 y2)
>                   (list m2 d2 y2))))
>         (d (calendar-absolute-from-gregorian date)))
>    (and
>     (<= date1 d)
>     (<= d date2)
>     (= (calendar-day-of-week date) dayname)
>     (or (not skip-weeks)
>         (progn
>           (require 'cal-iso)
>           (not (member (car (calendar-iso-from-absolute d)) skip-weeks))))
>     entry)))
>
>
> What do you think?
>
> - Carsten
>
> On Dec 21, 2009, at 4:54 PM, Daniel Martins wrote:
>
>> In fact, it helps! Thanks
>>
>> However a sentence like this:
>>
>>
>> +# a class that meets every Monday evening between February 16 and
>> April 20, 2009
>> ** Class 7:00pm-9:00pm
>> <%%(and (= 1 (calendar-day-of-week date)) (diary-block 2 16 2009 4 20
>> 2009))>
>>
>> is not an example of simplicity and visibility for a quite common feature!
>>
>> Maybe as a suggestion we could encapsulate such a huge expression in a
>> simpler org-mode function ?
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> PS In
>>
>> http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/DiaryMode#toc12
>>
>> I found another suggestion which I do not know how to include in org-mode
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>> Schedule
>>
>> If you want to write a schedule for school or university, you need to
>> define a block (it’s derived from diary-block) between two dates and a
>> weekday. The following function also recognizes holidays and won’t
>> send you to school on those days… :)
>>
>>   (defun diary-schedule (m1 d1 y1 m2 d2 y2 dayname)
>>     "Entry applies if date is between dates on DAYNAME.
>>   Order of the parameters is M1, D1, Y1, M2, D2, Y2 if
>>   `european-calendar-style' is nil, and D1, M1, Y1, D2, M2, Y2 if
>>   `european-calendar-style' is t. Entry does not apply on a history."
>>     (let ((date1 (calendar-absolute-from-gregorian
>>                   (if european-calendar-style
>>                       (list d1 m1 y1)
>>                     (list m1 d1 y1))))
>>           (date2 (calendar-absolute-from-gregorian
>>                   (if european-calendar-style
>>                       (list d2 m2 y2)
>>                     (list m2 d2 y2))))
>>           (d (calendar-absolute-from-gregorian date)))
>>       (if (and
>>            (<= date1 d)
>>            (<= d date2)
>>            (= (calendar-day-of-week date) dayname)
>>            (not (check-calendar-holidays date))
>>            )
>>            entry)))
>>
>> Then: "&%%(diary-schedule 22 4 2003 1 8 2003 2) 18:00 History"
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/12/20 Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>:
>>>
>>> Daniel Martins <danielemc@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> All academics here present (including of course Carsten) suffer from
>>>> the same problem, I think
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *** Math classes
>>>> <2009-12-10 Thu 11:00-14:00 +1w>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> will repeat forever and ever...
>>>>
>>>> We need to create a schedule for a period.
>>>>
>>>> The package "remind" (and its simple interface "wyrd") do this job
>>>> wonderfully but I do not know how to deal with this problem in Org
>>>> mode
>>>
>>> The following FAQ should help:
>>>
>>> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.php#diary-sexp-in-org-files
>>>
>>> - Matt
>>>
>>
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-27  0:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-18 10:48 Organizing a students live Thomas Bach
2009-12-18 13:31 ` Giovanni Ridolfi
2009-12-18 14:41 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2009-12-19  9:16 ` Jan Böcker
2009-12-19 11:20   ` Thomas Bach
2009-12-20 22:54     ` Daniel Martins
2009-12-20 23:52       ` Matt Lundin
2009-12-21 15:54         ` Daniel Martins
2009-12-22 15:30           ` Matthew Lundin
2009-12-26 11:33           ` Carsten Dominik
2009-12-27  0:51             ` Daniel Martins [this message]
2009-12-28 18:47               ` Carsten Dominik
2009-12-28 21:09                 ` Daniel Martins
2010-01-03 13:17                   ` Carsten Dominik
2010-02-10 19:02                     ` Daniel Martins
     [not found]                       ` <m3pr4chpee.fsf@buster.johnrakestraw.com>
2010-02-10 19:23                         ` Daniel Martins
2010-02-10 19:45                           ` Stephan Schmitt
2010-02-10 21:57                             ` Daniel Martins
2010-02-10 22:20                           ` Nick Dokos
2010-02-10 22:31                             ` Carsten Dominik
2010-02-10 22:48                               ` Daniel Martins
2009-12-21 17:23     ` Jan Böcker

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