From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Daniel Martins" Subject: Re: Keeping Your Appointments in org Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 08:47:37 -0200 Message-ID: <6ac505ad0901080247l33bfcf34obe6d214ebbc19735@mail.gmail.com> References: <4965C946.7050805@manor-farm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0615947767==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LKsQv-00037S-Ge for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:48:13 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LKsQu-00036v-Oc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:48:12 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51201 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LKsQt-00036o-VT for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:48:12 -0500 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.245]:22585) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LKsQt-0007rn-Ce for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:48:11 -0500 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so10567363rvb.6 for ; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:48:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4965C946.7050805@manor-farm.org> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Ian Barton Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --===============0615947767== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_183076_3408363.1231411657576" ------=_Part_183076_3408363.1231411657576 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I have the same migration problem. I still use Google Calendar to share appts with my students. Sometimes they mark an appt on certain dates etc... My migration problem is threefold since I migrated from planner-el too and I use remind a lot. I like wyrd for remote operation and I had remind - diary - ical and planner-el very integrated. I posted an email about this top=EDc a couple of weeks ago. I sincerely think that org-mode would be improved from using remind. At least until org-mode have all the calendar niceties that remind provides fo= r quite complex periodic dates and "strange" holidays and non working days. Remind is quite a powerful calendar parser. Wyrd (a remind interface) is a clean interface to see appts and schedule even remotely. Org-mode however exceeds remind, wyrd and planner-el as tool for organization as a whole. An interesting aspect is that we can use the "remind path" to automate some of the conversion from ical (eg Google Calendar) to org-mode. The ical -> org-mode could be done using the longer path ical -> remind -> diary -> org-mode Via ical -> remind: http://wiki.43folders.com/index.php/*ICal2Rem* remind -> diary: Sacha's rem2diary diary -> org-mode: (setq org-agenda-include-diary t) the reverse path could be directly org-mode -> ical .reminders.org.deadline .reminders.org.scheduled However to add all my appts in .reminders.org.deadline and .reminders.org.scheduled from inside org-mode I think that org2rem from Bastien is lacking a few features such as timed reminders and generates a non completely compatible .reminders files I have made some corrections and org2rem is working better now but it is still lacking to add appts with timestamps (ie with no SCHEDULED: or DEADLINE: tags) If someone is also interested I cand send my version of org2rem I hope this helps, Daniel 2009/1/8 Ian Barton > As it's the start of a new year, I want to move my appointments from Goog= le > Calendar as the primary source to org. When my system in org is running > smoothly I will export to Google Calendar on a regular basis. > > Searching back through the list there are quite a lot of snippets > describing how people use org to keep appointments, but no overview. I wo= uld > like to write a tutorial on how you can keep your appointments in org, so= I > thought that I would ask list members if they would post some details of > their system. > > I am intending to keep my appointments in a dedicated org file ( > calendar.org). At the moment I am using a remember template which adds > them with a tag of APPT. I the use a custom agenda view if I only want to > see appointments. > > I am particularly interested in the best way to deal with repeating > appointments. For example how do you deal with a weekly appointment that = has > a defined start and end date. > > Ian. > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ------=_Part_183076_3408363.1231411657576 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I have the same migration problem.

I still use Google Calendar to sh= are appts with my students. Sometimes they mark an appt on certain dates et= c...

My migration problem is threefold since I migrated from planner= -el too and  I use remind a lot. I like wyrd for remote operation and = I had remind - diary - ical and planner-el very integrated.

I posted an email about this top=EDc a couple of weeks ago.

I sincerely think that org-mode would be improved from using remind. At lea= st until org-mode have all the calendar niceties that remind provides for q= uite complex periodic dates and "strange" holidays and non workin= g days. Remind is quite a powerful calendar parser.


Wyrd (a remind interface) is a clean interface to see appts and sch= edule even remotely.

Org-mode however exceeds remind, wyrd and plann= er-el as tool for organization as a whole.


An interesting aspect= is that we can use the "remind path" to automate some of the con= version from ical (eg Google Calendar) to org-mode.

The ical -> org-mode could be done using the longer path

ical= -> remind -> diary -> org-mode

Via

ical -> remin= d:  http://wiki.43folders.com/index.php/ICal2Rem

remind -> diary:   Sacha's rem2diary

diary -> org= -mode:  (setq org-agenda-include-diary t)     = ;  


the reverse path could be directly

org-mode -> ical
.reminders.org.deadline
.reminders.org.scheduled

However  = to add all my appts in
.reminders.org.deadline and
 .reminders.org.scheduled
  from inside org-mode

I think that

org2rem
from Bastien

is lacking a few features such as timed= reminders and generates a non completely compatible .reminders files
I have made some corrections and org2rem is working better now but it is = still lacking to add appts with timestamps (ie with no SCHEDULED: or DEADLI= NE: tags)

If someone is also interested I cand send my version of org2rem

= I hope this helps,

Daniel

2009/1/8= Ian Barton <l= ists@manor-farm.org>
As it's the s= tart of a new year, I want to move my appointments from Google Calendar as = the primary source to org. When my system in org is running smoothly I will= export to Google Calendar on a regular basis.

Searching back through the list there are quite a lot of snippets describin= g how people use org to keep appointments, but no overview. I would like to= write a tutorial on how you can keep your appointments in org, so I though= t that I would ask list members if they would post some details of their sy= stem.

I am intending to keep my appointments in a dedicated org file (calendar.org). At the moment I a= m using a remember template which adds them with a tag of APPT. I the use a= custom agenda view if I only want to see appointments.

I am particularly interested in the best way to deal with repeating appoint= ments. For example how do you deal with a weekly appointment that has a def= ined start and end date.

Ian.


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