From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Daniel Martins" Subject: Re: structure editing in brainstorming mode Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:33:49 -0200 Message-ID: <6ac505ad0812310533mf8895a7sda303bc652cbd100@mail.gmail.com> References: <3F994805-E7F0-4DCC-A5DD-B256EC029F11@uva.nl> <8E006C30-4DBD-4394-8A66-E4107266E821@uva.nl> <87ljtwinjz.fsf@CPU107.opentrends.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1866126755==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LI1Cr-0001ho-E0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:33:53 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LI1Cq-0001hb-OV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:33:52 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55006 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LI1Cq-0001hY-IN for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:33:52 -0500 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.168]:11498) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LI1Cq-0006AA-1a for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:33:52 -0500 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so5515617wfc.24 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:33:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: emacs-orgmode , Rustom Mody --===============1866126755== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_121964_31746836.1230730429725" ------=_Part_121964_31746836.1230730429725 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I wish you a (transient-mark-mode -1) and a happy new year :-) ??? May your transition into the next year be highlighted ??? (comment-add 0) (setq happy-new-year t) Daniel 2008/12/31 Carsten Dominik > > On Dec 31, 2008, at 12:36 PM, Daniel Clemente wrote: > > >> Thanks. But I had to turn on transient mark mode for it to work. >>>> Intended behavior I guess? >>>> >>> >>> Yes. Everybody should turn it on. Why would you not? >>> >>> >> Why =84should" everyone use transient mark mode? Not everyone has to li= ke >> that setting, and some may prefer to work without it. >> >> I myself find it confusing because when I set the mark, I want just to >> mark that point for later use (to jump quickly there, for instance). >> transient-mark-mode assumes that I always want to *start a region*, whic= h is >> not true. >> >> I also like to select text without highlighting; it is less distracting >> and more readable. >> >> >> I wish you a (transient-mark-mode -1) and a happy new year :-) >> > > > OK, point taken. I hardly ever use the mark as a jumping point. > > When I need to remember a position, most of the time I split the > window, go to where I want momentarily in the new window, and > then close that window again. > > I thought that transient-mark-mode was the only way to make use > of commands that automatically use the region if one is active. > But because of your mail, I went back to the Emacs manual and > learned about the Momentary Mark, which is > transient-transient-mark-mode, sort of. Pretty nice, this is > a viable alternative to turning on transient-mark-mode, so viable > that I am now considering turning off transient-mark-mode :-) > > OK, rephrase: > > To use region-sensitive commands, everybody should either > turn on transient-mark-mode, or learn about the momentary mark. > > > May your transition into the next year be highlighted. > > - Carsten > > > > > >> Daniel >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ------=_Part_121964_31746836.1230730429725 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline  I wish you a (transient-mark-mode -1) and a happy new year :-)  = ???

May your transition into the next year be highlighted ???
(comment-add 0)
(setq happy-new-year t)

Daniel


2008/12/31 Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>

On Dec 31, 2008, at 12:36 PM, Daniel Clemente wrote:


Thanks.  But I had to turn on transient mark mode for it to work.
Intended behavior I guess?

Yes.  Everybody should turn it on.  Why would you not?


 Why =84should" everyone use transient mark mode? Not everyone has to = like that setting, and some may prefer to work without it.

 I myself find it confusing because when I set the mark, I want just t= o mark that point for later use (to jump quickly there, for instance). tran= sient-mark-mode assumes that I always want to *start a region*, which is no= t true.

 I also like to select text without highlighting; it is less distracti= ng and more readable.


 I wish you a (transient-mark-mode -1) and a happy new year :-)


OK, point taken.  I hardly ever use the mark as a jumping point.

When I need to remember a position, most of the time I split the
window, go to where I want momentarily in the new window, and
then close that window again.

I thought that transient-mark-mode was the only way to make use
of commands that automatically use the region if one is active.
But because of your mail, I went back to the Emacs manual and
learned about the Momentary Mark, which is
transient-transient-mark-mode, sort of.  Pretty nice, this is
a viable alternative to turning on transient-mark-mode, so viable
that I am now considering turning off transient-mark-mode :-)

OK, rephrase:

 To use region-sensitive commands, everybody should either
 turn on transient-mark-mode, or learn about the momentary mark.


May your transition into the next year be highlighted.

- Carsten





Daniel



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