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[180.150.91.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y21sm11130062pfm.219.2020.05.19.06.23.38 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 19 May 2020 06:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 21:23:36 +0800 From: Timothy To: Nicolas Goaziou Message-ID: <63A9C741-529E-4696-8A01-7F4A6ED49EB6@getmailspring.com> In-Reply-To: <87k118hxnu.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> References: <87k118hxnu.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Subject: Re: (Feature Request) add more entry points to configure some export functionality X-Mailer: Mailspring MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::630; envelope-from=tecosaur@gmail.com; helo=mail-pl1-x630.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "=?utf-8?Q?emacs-orgmode=40gnu.org?=" Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=VOi2xwaL; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 1.00 X-TUID: nHLcepjhNvkK Nicolas Goaziou writes: > As a side note, I think sending plain text messages, instead of HTML, > is better, at least on a (this=3F) mailing list. Good news on that front --- I didn't think my mail client did that, turns= out that it does :) > This argument doesn't scale. There's no guarantee an equivalent is > meaningful in every export back end. E.g., what is the HTML equivalent > for =60org-latex-classes', or =60org-latex-default-table-environment'=3F= Oh nothing like this should be applied blindly, it just seems /somewhat/ sensible to me that if the same feature exists in two commonly used expor= t backends, that you'd want to either be able to configure it in both or neither =C2=AF=5C=5F(=E3=83=84)=5F/=C2=AF > In any case, if a =22consistency patrol=22 wants to look into export ba= ck > ends and handle =22fixable=22 inconsistencies, why not. I assume this > requires a good knowledge in every output format so as to make sure thi= s > is consistent everywhere. I like consistancy, but not enough to sign up for that :P Timothy. On May 19 2020, at 9:17 pm, Nicolas Goaziou wr= ote: > Timothy writes: > =20 > As a side note, I think sending plain text messages, instead of HTML, i= s > better, at least on a (this=3F) mailing list. > =20 >> Indeed. Though my 2c on this sort of thing that the most important >> factor is consistency. IMO if org-html-checkbox-types exists, then an >> equivalent should also exist for other primary/default export >> backends. > =20 > This argument doesn't scale. There's no guarantee an equivalent is > meaningful in every export back end. E.g., what is the HTML equivalent > for =60org-latex-classes', or =60org-latex-default-table-environment'=3F= > =20 > In any case, if a =22consistency patrol=22 wants to look into export ba= ck > ends and handle =22fixable=22 inconsistencies, why not. I assume this > requires a good knowledge in every output format so as to make sure thi= s > is consistent everywhere. >