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* Starting from 9.5, Org contrib will be distributed as a separate Org ELPA package
@ 2020-10-24 15:53 Bastien
  2020-10-24 16:29 ` Colin Baxter
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From: Bastien @ 2020-10-24 15:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi all,

"Org contrib" refers to the list of Emacs lisp files that you find
in the contrib/ directory of Org's repository:

https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode/src/master/contrib

The idea of this directory was to have a place where to promote Org
packages even if they are not part of Org's core (ie the files that go
into Emacs core.)  It was also useful as a place to welcome packages
from authors who don't sign the FSF copyright assignment.

Both reasons are kind of obsolete nowadays: many, if not most useful
Org contributions are published elsewhere.  Also, mixing authors who
signed the FSF assignment and those who don't is never a good idea
for a repo, even if the contributions happen in separate spaces.

Org 9.5 will ship without the packages in the contrib/ directory.

Emacs lisp files in contrib/ will be packaged as an Org ELPA package
that you can install independentely from there.  The files will live
in a new org-contrib.git repo on code.orgmode.org.

In the long run, every Emacs file in org-contrib.git need to find a
proper maintainer (who will decide where to maintain it) or to be
listed in the list of Emacs orphan packages.

If you use Org contrib/ files from git, you will have to clone a 
new repository when the split is done, within the next weeks.

If you use org-plus-contrib, you don't have anything to do before 
Org 9.5 is released.  When it is, you will have add Org ELPA to
your configuration and install org-contrib from there.

If you have any question on this, please let me know!

Best,

-- 
 Bastien


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* Re: Starting from 9.5, Org contrib will be distributed as a separate Org ELPA package
  2020-10-24 15:53 Starting from 9.5, Org contrib will be distributed as a separate Org ELPA package Bastien
@ 2020-10-24 16:29 ` Colin Baxter
  2020-10-25  1:02 ` stardiviner
  2021-03-28  6:43 ` Bastien
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Colin Baxter @ 2020-10-24 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hello Bastien,
>>>>> Bastien  <bzg@gnu.org> writes:

    > Org 9.5 will ship without the packages in the contrib/ directory.

    > Emacs lisp files in contrib/ will be packaged as an Org ELPA

Oh no! I hate packages and never use ELPA. :-(

    > package that you can install independentely from there.  The files
    > will live in a new org-contrib.git repo on code.orgmode.org.

Phew! Saved! Oh well, another git repo to add to the list. :-)

Best wishes,



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* Re: Starting from 9.5, Org contrib will be distributed as a separate Org ELPA package
  2020-10-24 15:53 Starting from 9.5, Org contrib will be distributed as a separate Org ELPA package Bastien
  2020-10-24 16:29 ` Colin Baxter
@ 2020-10-25  1:02 ` stardiviner
  2021-03-28  6:43 ` Bastien
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: stardiviner @ 2020-10-25  1:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode


Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:

> Hi all,
>
> "Org contrib" refers to the list of Emacs lisp files that you find
> in the contrib/ directory of Org's repository:
>
> https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode/src/master/contrib
>
> The idea of this directory was to have a place where to promote Org
> packages even if they are not part of Org's core (ie the files that go
> into Emacs core.)  It was also useful as a place to welcome packages
> from authors who don't sign the FSF copyright assignment.
>
> Both reasons are kind of obsolete nowadays: many, if not most useful
> Org contributions are published elsewhere.  Also, mixing authors who
> signed the FSF assignment and those who don't is never a good idea
> for a repo, even if the contributions happen in separate spaces.
>
> Org 9.5 will ship without the packages in the contrib/ directory.
>
> Emacs lisp files in contrib/ will be packaged as an Org ELPA package
> that you can install independentely from there.  The files will live
> in a new org-contrib.git repo on code.orgmode.org.
>
> In the long run, every Emacs file in org-contrib.git need to find a
> proper maintainer (who will decide where to maintain it) or to be
> listed in the list of Emacs orphan packages.
>
> If you use Org contrib/ files from git, you will have to clone a 
> new repository when the split is done, within the next weeks.
>
> If you use org-plus-contrib, you don't have anything to do before 
> Org 9.5 is released.  When it is, you will have add Org ELPA to
> your configuration and install org-contrib from there.
>
> If you have any question on this, please let me know!
>
> Best,

I agree with this solution. This is good idea. It will keep maintaining and
debugging Org Mode simpler.

Even though I just use local Git source code for Org Mode. (So don't need to
modify my config at all.)

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* Re: Starting from 9.5, Org contrib will be distributed as a separate Org ELPA package
  2020-10-24 15:53 Starting from 9.5, Org contrib will be distributed as a separate Org ELPA package Bastien
  2020-10-24 16:29 ` Colin Baxter
  2020-10-25  1:02 ` stardiviner
@ 2021-03-28  6:43 ` Bastien
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2021-03-28  6:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi all,

Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:

> Org 9.5 will ship without the packages in the contrib/ directory.

Just FWIW, this is still the plan.

> Emacs lisp files in contrib/ will be packaged as an Org ELPA package
> that you can install independentely from there.  The files will live
> in a new org-contrib.git repo on code.orgmode.org.

There is a change here - instead of being published as an Org ELPA
package, org-contrib will be published as a NonGNU ELPA package.

You will find it here: https://elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu/

> In the long run, every Emacs file in org-contrib.git need to find a
> proper maintainer (who will decide where to maintain it) or to be
> listed in the list of Emacs orphan packages.

This is still the case: volunteers are welcome.

Thanks,

-- 
 Bastien


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