* Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
@ 2009-01-07 18:28 Manish
2009-01-07 19:45 ` Sebastian Rose
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Manish @ 2009-01-07 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Hello Carsten,
The image at http://imagebin.org/35260 shows the Orgmode homepage in
IE6 and http://imagebin.org/35261 shows the the same page in FF3. The
page in IE (6) is jumbled up (table of contents mixed up with page
contents) since it (IE6) does not support "position: fixed" used in
the org.css. I faced the same issue when I gave some org-generated
HTML documentation to someone using IE yesterday. So I got some help
from a friend and worked out a compromise so that it doesn't break so
horribly in IE6.
What I did was to create another small CSS file, org-ie6, css, with following
contents:
: #table-of-contents{
: position: absolute;
: float: left;
: }
:
: body {
: background-attachment: scroll;
: }
And load this CSS conditionally when IE 6 is being used by adding
following line in the generated HTML file's header just above the
<body> tag:
: <!--[if lt IE 7]><link rel="stylesheet" href="org-ie6.css"
type="text/css" ><![endif]-->
(previous line may wrap)
The compromise is that the table of contents in the sidebar (along
with the background image) scrolls up with the page unlike in FF,
which IMHO, is an acceptable compromise. I have been told that some
javascript magic can make IE6 behave like "position: fixed" but I
haven't yet worked out how/if that can be done.
Possibly a better workaround/solution exists for this else please
consider making similar change to the Orgmode home page.
Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works.
Regards,
--
Manish
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* Re: Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
2009-01-07 18:28 Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage Manish
@ 2009-01-07 19:45 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-01-07 20:25 ` Manish
2009-01-07 23:41 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-01-07 21:26 ` Matthew Lundin
2009-01-08 9:03 ` R: " Giovanni Ridolfi
2 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Rose @ 2009-01-07 19:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Manish; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
This is what I use in such cases. All styles starting with '*' are read
by IE only. No compromise should be neccessary.
@media screen {
/* ... all your styles here ... */
#table-of-contents
{
position:fixed;
width:198px;
}
* html { overflow-y: hidden; }
* html body {
overflow-y: auto;
height: 100%;
padding: 0 0 0 0;
font-size: 100%;
}
* html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; }
}
Regards,
Sebastian
Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
> Hello Carsten,
>
> The image at http://imagebin.org/35260 shows the Orgmode homepage in
> IE6 and http://imagebin.org/35261 shows the the same page in FF3. The
> page in IE (6) is jumbled up (table of contents mixed up with page
> contents) since it (IE6) does not support "position: fixed" used in
> the org.css. I faced the same issue when I gave some org-generated
> HTML documentation to someone using IE yesterday. So I got some help
> from a friend and worked out a compromise so that it doesn't break so
> horribly in IE6.
>
> What I did was to create another small CSS file, org-ie6, css, with following
> contents:
>
> : #table-of-contents{
> : position: absolute;
> : float: left;
> : }
> :
> : body {
> : background-attachment: scroll;
> : }
>
> And load this CSS conditionally when IE 6 is being used by adding
> following line in the generated HTML file's header just above the
> <body> tag:
>
> : <!--[if lt IE 7]><link rel="stylesheet" href="org-ie6.css"
> type="text/css" ><![endif]-->
>
> (previous line may wrap)
>
> The compromise is that the table of contents in the sidebar (along
> with the background image) scrolls up with the page unlike in FF,
> which IMHO, is an acceptable compromise. I have been told that some
> javascript magic can make IE6 behave like "position: fixed" but I
> haven't yet worked out how/if that can be done.
>
> Possibly a better workaround/solution exists for this else please
> consider making similar change to the Orgmode home page.
>
> Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works.
>
> Regards,
--
Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover
Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472
Fax: +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044
mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417
Email: s.rose@emma-stil.de, sebastian_rose@gmx.de
Http: www.emma-stil.de
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* Re: Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
2009-01-07 19:45 ` Sebastian Rose
@ 2009-01-07 20:25 ` Manish
2009-01-08 2:53 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-01-07 23:41 ` Carsten Dominik
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Manish @ 2009-01-07 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sebastian Rose; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
>> Hello Carsten,
>>
>> The image at http://imagebin.org/35260 shows the Orgmode homepage in
>> IE6 and http://imagebin.org/35261 shows the the same page in FF3. The
>> page in IE (6) is jumbled up (table of contents mixed up with page
>> contents) since it (IE6) does not support "position: fixed" used in
>> the org.css. I faced the same issue when I gave some org-generated
>> HTML documentation to someone using IE yesterday. So I got some help
>> from a friend and worked out a compromise so that it doesn't break so
>> horribly in IE6.
>>
>> What I did was to create another small CSS file, org-ie6, css,
with following
>> contents:
>>
>> : #table-of-contents{
>> : position: absolute;
>> : float: left;
>> : }
>> :
>> : body {
>> : background-attachment: scroll;
>> : }
>>
>> And load this CSS conditionally when IE 6 is being used by adding
>> following line in the generated HTML file's header just above the
>> <body> tag:
>>
>> : <!--[if lt IE 7]><link rel="stylesheet" href="org-ie6.css"
>> type="text/css" ><![endif]-->
>>
>> (previous line may wrap)
>>
>> The compromise is that the table of contents in the sidebar (along
>> with the background image) scrolls up with the page unlike in FF,
>> which IMHO, is an acceptable compromise. I have been told that some
>> javascript magic can make IE6 behave like "position: fixed" but I
>> haven't yet worked out how/if that can be done.
>>
>> Possibly a better workaround/solution exists for this else please
>> consider making similar change to the Orgmode home page.
>>
>> Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works.
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Sebastian Rose wrote:
>
> This is what I use in such cases. All styles starting with '*' are read
> by IE only. No compromise should be neccessary.
>
>
>
>
> @media screen {
>
> /* ... all your styles here ... */
>
> #table-of-contents
> {
> position:fixed;
> width:198px;
> }
>
> * html { overflow-y: hidden; }
>
> * html body {
> overflow-y: auto;
> height: 100%;
> padding: 0 0 0 0;
> font-size: 100%;
> }
>
> * html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; }
> }
This is a much better solution. I have an on/off-topic question
though, if you do not mind. In case the TOC contents are more than
what fits on the page what do I add to css (or may be to #+OPTIONS
line?) to bring up a scroll bar like in
http://orgmode.org/Changes.html?
Regards,
--
Manish
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* Re: Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
2009-01-07 18:28 Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage Manish
2009-01-07 19:45 ` Sebastian Rose
@ 2009-01-07 21:26 ` Matthew Lundin
2009-01-08 5:44 ` Manish
2009-01-08 9:03 ` R: " Giovanni Ridolfi
2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Matthew Lundin @ 2009-01-07 21:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Manish; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Hi Manish,
Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works.
>
Either of these sites are nice for seeing what pages look like on
various versions of IE.
http://browsershots.org/
http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/
- Matt
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* Re: Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
2009-01-07 19:45 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-01-07 20:25 ` Manish
@ 2009-01-07 23:41 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-01-08 2:54 ` Sebastian Rose
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-01-07 23:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sebastian Rose; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Hi Sebastian,
would you like to make things easy for me and make me a new version of
org.css which will work also on IE, and send it to me????
Thanks!
- Carsten
On Jan 7, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote:
>
> This is what I use in such cases. All styles starting with '*' are
> read
> by IE only. No compromise should be neccessary.
>
>
>
>
> @media screen {
>
> /* ... all your styles here ... */
>
> #table-of-contents
> {
> position:fixed;
> width:198px;
> }
>
> * html { overflow-y: hidden; }
>
> * html body {
> overflow-y: auto;
> height: 100%;
> padding: 0 0 0 0;
> font-size: 100%;
> }
>
> * html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; }
> }
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sebastian
>
>
>
> Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
>> Hello Carsten,
>>
>> The image at http://imagebin.org/35260 shows the Orgmode homepage in
>> IE6 and http://imagebin.org/35261 shows the the same page in FF3.
>> The
>> page in IE (6) is jumbled up (table of contents mixed up with page
>> contents) since it (IE6) does not support "position: fixed" used in
>> the org.css. I faced the same issue when I gave some org-generated
>> HTML documentation to someone using IE yesterday. So I got some help
>> from a friend and worked out a compromise so that it doesn't break so
>> horribly in IE6.
>>
>> What I did was to create another small CSS file, org-ie6, css, with
>> following
>> contents:
>>
>> : #table-of-contents{
>> : position: absolute;
>> : float: left;
>> : }
>> :
>> : body {
>> : background-attachment: scroll;
>> : }
>>
>> And load this CSS conditionally when IE 6 is being used by adding
>> following line in the generated HTML file's header just above the
>> <body> tag:
>>
>> : <!--[if lt IE 7]><link rel="stylesheet" href="org-ie6.css"
>> type="text/css" ><![endif]-->
>>
>> (previous line may wrap)
>>
>> The compromise is that the table of contents in the sidebar (along
>> with the background image) scrolls up with the page unlike in FF,
>> which IMHO, is an acceptable compromise. I have been told that some
>> javascript magic can make IE6 behave like "position: fixed" but I
>> haven't yet worked out how/if that can be done.
>>
>> Possibly a better workaround/solution exists for this else please
>> consider making similar change to the Orgmode home page.
>>
>> Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works.
>>
>> Regards,
>
> --
> Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449
> Hannover
> Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472
> Fax: +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044
> mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417
> Email: s.rose@emma-stil.de, sebastian_rose@gmx.de
> Http: www.emma-stil.de
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
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* Re: Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
2009-01-07 20:25 ` Manish
@ 2009-01-08 2:53 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-01-08 4:02 ` Manish
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Rose @ 2009-01-08 2:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Manish; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Hi Manish,
just make the #table-of-contents limited to a certain height. 100%
should work if nothing else is higher than the visible area in the
browser. If it doesn't, use a pixel value.
@media screen {
/* ... all your styles here ... */
#table-of-contents
{
position:fixed;
width:198px;
/* add this for the height: */
height:100%;
overflow:auto;
}
* html { overflow-y: hidden; }
* html body {
overflow-y: auto;
height: 100%;
padding: 0 0 0 0;
font-size: 100%;
}
* html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; }
}
Regards,
Sebastian
Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
> > Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
> >> Hello Carsten,
> >>
> >> The image at http://imagebin.org/35260 shows the Orgmode homepage in
> >> IE6 and http://imagebin.org/35261 shows the the same page in FF3. The
> >> page in IE (6) is jumbled up (table of contents mixed up with page
> >> contents) since it (IE6) does not support "position: fixed" used in
> >> the org.css. I faced the same issue when I gave some org-generated
> >> HTML documentation to someone using IE yesterday. So I got some help
> >> from a friend and worked out a compromise so that it doesn't break so
> >> horribly in IE6.
> >>
> >> What I did was to create another small CSS file, org-ie6, css,
> with following
> >> contents:
> >>
> >> : #table-of-contents{
> >> : position: absolute;
> >> : float: left;
> >> : }
> >> :
> >> : body {
> >> : background-attachment: scroll;
> >> : }
> >>
> >> And load this CSS conditionally when IE 6 is being used by adding
> >> following line in the generated HTML file's header just above the
> >> <body> tag:
> >>
> >> : <!--[if lt IE 7]><link rel="stylesheet" href="org-ie6.css"
> >> type="text/css" ><![endif]-->
> >>
> >> (previous line may wrap)
> >>
> >> The compromise is that the table of contents in the sidebar (along
> >> with the background image) scrolls up with the page unlike in FF,
> >> which IMHO, is an acceptable compromise. I have been told that some
> >> javascript magic can make IE6 behave like "position: fixed" but I
> >> haven't yet worked out how/if that can be done.
> >>
> >> Possibly a better workaround/solution exists for this else please
> >> consider making similar change to the Orgmode home page.
> >>
> >> Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works.
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Sebastian Rose wrote:
>>
>> This is what I use in such cases. All styles starting with '*' are read
>> by IE only. No compromise should be neccessary.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> @media screen {
>>
>> /* ... all your styles here ... */
>>
>> #table-of-contents
>> {
>> position:fixed;
>> width:198px;
>> }
>>
>> * html { overflow-y: hidden; }
>>
>> * html body {
>> overflow-y: auto;
>> height: 100%;
>> padding: 0 0 0 0;
>> font-size: 100%;
>> }
>>
>> * html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; }
>> }
>
> This is a much better solution. I have an on/off-topic question
> though, if you do not mind. In case the TOC contents are more than
> what fits on the page what do I add to css (or may be to #+OPTIONS
> line?) to bring up a scroll bar like in
> http://orgmode.org/Changes.html?
>
> Regards,
--
Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover
Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472
Fax: +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044
mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417
Email: s.rose@emma-stil.de, sebastian_rose@gmx.de
Http: www.emma-stil.de
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* Re: Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
2009-01-07 23:41 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2009-01-08 2:54 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-01-08 3:27 ` Samuel Wales
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Rose @ 2009-01-08 2:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
> Hi Sebastian,
>
> would you like to make things easy for me and make me a new version of org.css
> which will work also on IE, and send it to me????
Yes, I'll give it a shot this evening.
Best,
Sebastian
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Carsten
>
> On Jan 7, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote:
>
>>
>> This is what I use in such cases. All styles starting with '*' are read
>> by IE only. No compromise should be neccessary.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> @media screen {
>>
>> /* ... all your styles here ... */
>>
>> #table-of-contents
>> {
>> position:fixed;
>> width:198px;
>> }
>>
>> * html { overflow-y: hidden; }
>>
>> * html body {
>> overflow-y: auto;
>> height: 100%;
>> padding: 0 0 0 0;
>> font-size: 100%;
>> }
>>
>> * html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; }
>> }
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>>
>> Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
>>> Hello Carsten,
>>>
>>> The image at http://imagebin.org/35260 shows the Orgmode homepage in
>>> IE6 and http://imagebin.org/35261 shows the the same page in FF3. The
>>> page in IE (6) is jumbled up (table of contents mixed up with page
>>> contents) since it (IE6) does not support "position: fixed" used in
>>> the org.css. I faced the same issue when I gave some org-generated
>>> HTML documentation to someone using IE yesterday. So I got some help
>>> from a friend and worked out a compromise so that it doesn't break so
>>> horribly in IE6.
>>>
>>> What I did was to create another small CSS file, org-ie6, css, with following
>>> contents:
>>>
>>> : #table-of-contents{
>>> : position: absolute;
>>> : float: left;
>>> : }
>>> :
>>> : body {
>>> : background-attachment: scroll;
>>> : }
>>>
>>> And load this CSS conditionally when IE 6 is being used by adding
>>> following line in the generated HTML file's header just above the
>>> <body> tag:
>>>
>>> : <!--[if lt IE 7]><link rel="stylesheet" href="org-ie6.css"
>>> type="text/css" ><![endif]-->
>>>
>>> (previous line may wrap)
>>>
>>> The compromise is that the table of contents in the sidebar (along
>>> with the background image) scrolls up with the page unlike in FF,
>>> which IMHO, is an acceptable compromise. I have been told that some
>>> javascript magic can make IE6 behave like "position: fixed" but I
>>> haven't yet worked out how/if that can be done.
>>>
>>> Possibly a better workaround/solution exists for this else please
>>> consider making similar change to the Orgmode home page.
>>>
>>> Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover
>> Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472
>> Fax: +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044
>> mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417
>> Email: s.rose@emma-stil.de, sebastian_rose@gmx.de
>> Http: www.emma-stil.de
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
--
Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover
Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472
Fax: +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044
mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417
Email: s.rose@emma-stil.de, sebastian_rose@gmx.de
Http: www.emma-stil.de
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* Re: Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
2009-01-08 2:54 ` Sebastian Rose
@ 2009-01-08 3:27 ` Samuel Wales
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Wales @ 2009-01-08 3:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
A reminder about accessibility.
With changes to code that creates web pages, remember to try
increasing the font size to very large and looking at all parts of the
page.
Try fonts large enough that the maximized browser can only display 60
characters or so.
Quite often, text overlaps itself vertically or horizontally. Quite
often it also runs past the right margin of the window, or the right
or bottom edge of parts of the page. When that happens, the page is
often unusable.
--
For personal gain, myalgic encephalomyelitis denialists are knowingly
causing further suffering and death by grossly corrupting science. Do
you care about the world?
http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/What_Is_ME_What_Is_CFS.htm
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* Re: Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
2009-01-08 2:53 ` Sebastian Rose
@ 2009-01-08 4:02 ` Manish
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Manish @ 2009-01-08 4:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sebastian Rose; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
That works! Thank you Sebastian.
--
Manish
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi Manish,
>
> just make the #table-of-contents limited to a certain height. 100%
> should work if nothing else is higher than the visible area in the
> browser. If it doesn't, use a pixel value.
>
> @media screen {
>
> /* ... all your styles here ... */
>
> #table-of-contents
> {
> position:fixed;
> width:198px;
> /* add this for the height: */
> height:100%;
> overflow:auto;
> }
>
> * html { overflow-y: hidden; }
>
> * html body {
> overflow-y: auto;
> height: 100%;
> padding: 0 0 0 0;
> font-size: 100%;
> }
>
> * html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; }
> }
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sebastian
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* Re: Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
2009-01-07 21:26 ` Matthew Lundin
@ 2009-01-08 5:44 ` Manish
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Manish @ 2009-01-08 5:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matthew Lundin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Both are wonderful resources. Thanks for sharing.
--
Manish
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Matthew Lundin wrote:
>
> Hi Manish,
>
> Manish writes:
>>
>> Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works.
>>
>
> Either of these sites are nice for seeing what pages look like on
> various versions of IE.
>
> http://browsershots.org/
>
> http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/
>
> - Matt
>
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* R: Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
2009-01-07 18:28 Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage Manish
2009-01-07 19:45 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-01-07 21:26 ` Matthew Lundin
@ 2009-01-08 9:03 ` Giovanni Ridolfi
2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Giovanni Ridolfi @ 2009-01-08 9:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Manish
--- Mer 7/1/09, Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that
> works.
On 8th January 2008 at 10:01 CET
with IE 7.057???
XP SP??
The page is displayed correctly. (like http://imagebin.org/35260)
Cheers,
Giovanni
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