From: Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>
To: Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca>
Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Beginners guide to Org customization
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 22:40:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <58D3255C-431E-4F85-B6C3-850213F16063@uva.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87hc38lq5e.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca>
On Feb 5, 2009, at 7:01 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:
> Carsten,
>
> That looks really good! (except for the FIXME at the bottom ;) )
>
> I really like this version :)
>
> I haven't verified that the setup steps you described actually work.
> Somebody(tm) should probably do that with a minimal emacs setup.
>
> I also haven't verified all the links referenced in the document go to
> appropriate places.
>
> Hmmm my setup doesn't have (org-remember-insinuate) (well it does
> now!) -- I wonder what breaks if that is missing.
org-remember-insinuate is simply a shortcut for the
old setup where you had to add functions to hooks yourself.
The definition of it is:
(defun org-remember-insinuate ()
"Setup remember.el for use with Org-mode."
(org-require-remember)
(setq remember-annotation-functions '(org-remember-annotation))
(setq remember-handler-functions '(org-remember-handler))
(add-hook 'remember-mode-hook 'org-remember-apply-template))
It actually does one more thing: If remember.el is not
found, it defines a miniature, just functional version of it.
- Carsten
>
>
> -Bernt
>
> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>
>> I have my home^h^h^h^h trainwork up as a new
>> attempt for the "Beginners Guide".
>> A lot more appropriate now, I think. Bernt?
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-customization-guide.php
>>
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:
>>
>>> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>>>
>>>> I have made a structured list of 43 (which one can
>>>> we remove, please????) Variables that came in as frequently
>>>> customized variables in the customization survey. It is not
>>>> exactly the top 43, I have used some additional judgement.
>>>
>>> I think a lot of these variables are things you play with _after_
>>> using
>>> org-mode for awhile. Maybe the following variables should be
>>> introduced
>>> later?
>>>
>>> - org-archive-location
>>>
>>> the default works, and you don't archive anytime soon after
>>> starting
>>> to use org-mode.
>>>
>>> - org-startup-folded
>>>
>>> start with #STARTUP first?
>>>
>>> - org-odd-levels-only
>>>
>>> Talk about the conversion functions too (org-convert-to-odd-levels
>>> and org-convert-to-oddeven-levels.) I switched my files back and
>>> forth a few times but ended up with oddeven levels due to the
>>> depth
>>> of some of my tasks.
>>>
>>> - org-special-ctrl-a/e
>>> - org-special-ctrl-k
>>>
>>> I should maybe try these one day :)
>>>
>>> I've used org-mode for a few years now and I don't currently use
>>> these
>>> variables. They're great to have but not essential to getting
>>> started.
>>>
>>> The default values for the variables work in most cases. I think
>>> the
>>> ones that should be listed first are the ones you really have to
>>> customize to get org-mode to work for you. Beginners will not want
>>> nor
>>> need this amount of detail to be productive with org-mode. Having
>>> too
>>> many variables to set up or play with up front may just scare people
>>> away.
>>>
>>> Maybe we just need to stress that customizations are optional and
>>> you
>>> can completely ignore entire sections that don't apply to you
>>> (clocking,
>>> exporting, etc.) until you feel you need these additional features.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Bernt
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-05 21:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-05 11:54 Beginners guide to Org customization Carsten Dominik
2009-02-05 13:25 ` David Lord
2009-02-05 13:52 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-02-05 14:21 ` Bernt Hansen
2009-02-05 14:34 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-02-05 17:29 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-02-05 18:01 ` Bernt Hansen
2009-02-05 21:40 ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2009-02-05 18:13 ` Graham Smith
2009-02-06 11:09 Rustom Mody
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