From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Erik Hetzner Subject: Re: Citations, continued Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 09:58:48 -0800 Message-ID: <54d25dda.87a7420a.4dd8.7322@mx.google.com> References: <87vbjmn6wy.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87sieokx8e.fsf@berkeley.edu> <54d04780.cb58460a.5243.2603@mx.google.com> <87h9v3li8t.fsf@berkeley.edu> <54d078ff.b044440a.06ec.3cf6@mx.google.com> <87d25rkmag.fsf@berkeley.edu> <54d1bc7b.c57d440a.3c5d.2dca@mx.google.com> <87vbjhk6q5.fsf@berkeley.edu> Reply-To: Erik Hetzner Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50888) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YJ4E4-0007dp-OO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 12:59:01 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YJ4E0-0004lh-9a for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 12:58:56 -0500 Received: from mail-pd0-f175.google.com ([209.85.192.175]:32824) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YJ4E0-0004lZ-4W for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 12:58:52 -0500 Received: by pdjg10 with SMTP id g10so2125585pdj.0 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 09:58:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87vbjhk6q5.fsf@berkeley.edu> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Richard Lawrence Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 at 07:59:46 PST, Richard Lawrence wrote: >=20 > Erik Hetzner writes: >=20 > >> The ideal would be if citeproc would take care of proper formatting > >> of all such citation types, given just an ordered list of the fields > >> that should appear. I don't know if CSL supports this, though; do > >> you? > > > > I=E2=80=99m not entirely sure what you mean. The authors of citeproc ha= ve come > > up with a huge number of styles which seem to satisfy people=E2=80=99s = needs. > > What appears in the in-text citation is configurable, see: > > > > http://citationstyles.org/downloads/specification-csl101-20120903.htm= l#citation >=20 > Sorry, I wasn't clear. What I mean is, is there a way to tell an > implementation of CSL "hey, this particular citation right here should > only contain the author (or year, or journal...) of the referenced work, > even though the citation style for this document is (e.g.) numeric?" >=20 > The link you referenced makes it seem like the element > describes how citations should be formatted for a whole document, but > maybe I don't understand it. (Can there be multiple citation formatting > styles specified by a CSL stylesheet? or multiple stylesheets used to > format the citations in a document?) >=20 > The idea is, a citation like "As Doe says in @Doe99:title, ..." should > render like "As Doe says in /The Title/, ...", not like "As Doe says in > Doe (1999), ...", even if "@Doe99" citations in the document generally > render like the latter. I suspect this must be possible with > citeproc/CSL, but I don't actually know, since Pandoc doesn't provide > syntax for this kind of case. Hi Richard, Thanks for the reply. I believe there is some discussion of this here: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/pandoc-discuss/QcAnk7hsZD8/e9MYHu0BA5IJ and probably elsewhere on the pandoc-discuss list if you search the archives. It=E2=80=99s not supported in existing citeproc implementations, but I think it would be possible to support something like this. On the other hand, this is also something that is easily done by hand, so I don=E2=80=99t know if it=E2=80=99s worth the trouble. best, Erik -- Sent from my free software system .